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DarwinofMind
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posted 04-11-2001 01:12 PM

Did we lose our Industrail revoltion thread? can it be recovered, All I'm seeing is a blank space with
nothing to click on.

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LazyDM
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posted 04-11-2001 01:13 PM

Man, when you guys set out to destroy a world, you do it with style!

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FallynAngel
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posted 04-11-2001 01:15 PM

Well, at least now all you have to do is hit "next topic".

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Bugaboo
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posted 04-11-2001 01:16 PM

Go here:
http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~dnd3e/ubb/Forum17/HTML/003222.html

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LazyDM
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posted 04-11-2001 01:17 PM

See kids, this is why you don't play catch with a Sphere of Annihilation.

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Edena_of_Neith
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posted 04-11-2001 01:18 PM

What happened?
What happened to the Thread?

I don't understand.
Yeah, I see you can go to the URL, Bugaboo, but ... what happened?

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FallynAngel
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posted 04-11-2001 01:18 PM

Disgruntled EN board workers?

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Sacred Cow
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posted 04-11-2001 01:19 PM

You angered me. This is my wrath.

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FallynAngel
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posted 04-11-2001 01:20 PM

See?

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DarwinofMind
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posted 04-11-2001 01:21 PM

I see what happened the board messed up and it has bad information for the first post.

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EricNoah
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posted 04-11-2001 01:22 PM

Obviously something went wacky when the boards crashed a while back. I'll try reindexing and see if that
helps.

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Bugaboo
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posted 04-11-2001 01:23 PM

...OR you insulted Sacred Cow.

I'd be more careful if I were you. Don't anger The Cow.

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target
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posted 04-11-2001 01:25 PM


quote:

Originally posted by EricNoah:
Obviously something went wacky when the boards crashed a while back. I'll try reindexing
and see if that helps.


I noticed that this was a really long thread.

You might check to see if there's a size limit/bug related to size which is causing this.

If so, take the last few pages and start a new thread?

- target

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Bugaboo
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posted 04-11-2001 01:27 PM

Have you cleared it with Sacred Cow first? I'd suggest pooling your resources for at least +35 Diplomacy
skill ranks before you do. (Synergy points given for Knowledge-Religion and Knowledge-Bovines)

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Edena_of_Neith
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posted 04-11-2001 01:28 PM

Thank you, Noah.
This help is really appreciated.

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DarwinofMind
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posted 04-11-2001 01:29 PM

UM' it didn't seem to work eric!

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EricNoah
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posted 04-11-2001 01:36 PM

Well, I tried editing the subject line. Looks like that caused the thread to disappear... sorry about that...

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Mr. Draco
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posted 04-11-2001 01:40 PM

Umm... Eric, something really weird has happened with the thread...

Aparently new messages are appearing in the middle of the first page (of 8) and the rest of the pages are
taken up by copies of what was the start of the thread...

Weird...

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EricNoah
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posted 04-11-2001 01:42 PM

Between the size of the thread and the server problems, my guess is we'll never see it again... however,
i'm still reindexing, so we'll see what happens.

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Sacred Cow
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posted 04-11-2001 01:45 PM

If you are pure of heart and promise to sacrifice all evildoers in my name, I MIGHT let the message
thread reappear. Maybe. I haven't decided yet.

Some of the comments floating around here have been pretty hurtful, after all.

Start praying now, mortals. Mooooo in my name!

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EricNoah
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posted 04-11-2001 01:51 PM

*sigh* sorry, it's gone, gone, gone.

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Enkhidu
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posted 04-11-2001 02:00 PM

Edena,

It looks like it's all over then.

Thanks so much for the (literally) hours of fun I had reading it.

BTW, if you ever get the itch to do something like this again, don't do it yourself! Let me, or any of a
dozen others know, and I'm sure we can share the load, as it were.

Enkhidu

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EricNoah
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posted 04-11-2001 02:02 PM

The big original thread was archived before the crash. Go to the bottom of just about any page to get to
the archives.

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Bugaboo
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posted 04-11-2001 02:03 PM

Me, too. I'm a little perturbed about all the time and effort I lost. I put my heart and soul into that
thread, darn it! Some of my best work, now gone forever!

(sigh)

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Aloïsius
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posted 04-11-2001 02:27 PM

Those who still have it in cache could send a backup copy. The second thread is not archived.

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DarwinofMind
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posted 04-11-2001 02:30 PM

Well we shall morn it's passing (except for Buggaboo he won't morn just moke our pain.)

I was a great time What 3 days? Realtime? WOW, 7 years of war, almost rid the multiverse of the accursed
Toril, almost rid Toril or the acursed Elves. Beutiful. Fantastic.

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DarwinofMind
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posted 04-11-2001 02:33 PM

Yes, Good show I should have thought of that, I'll start looking for what I have in the cache,

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DarwinofMind
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posted 04-11-2001 02:44 PM

OK, I recovered pages 2-6 anyone got the rest?

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Forrester
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posted 04-11-2001 02:54 PM

Well, we DO know where the story left off when things crashed.

I'd be quite happy to start from there, and help Edena (with the aid of Reprisal and others) fill in a synopsis
of the goings-on that got nuked. Even if we do not continue (which would be a bit of a shame), I think we
should all contribute to filling in the lost details, before our memories become fuzzy.

Edena? Are you up for it? After all, I want to know if the newly Psionic Humanoids can become Caretakers of
the Weave . . . (we don't need no stinkin' elves!)

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Forrester
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posted 04-11-2001 02:58 PM

Wow, Darwin, there were only 8 pages -- and page 8 only had four or five posts, at best.

Damn! It looks like we're okay after all.

Perhaps you should post pages 2-6 under a new thread? Use the old name -- mostly, at least. "Recovered:
How Would . . . . "

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Bugaboo
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posted 04-11-2001 02:59 PM


quote:

Originally posted by DarwinofMind:
... (except for Buggaboo he won't morn just moke our pain.)


Hey! I don't morn OR moke!

I might mock your mourning, however. But I only do that because I care, and I want your pain to pass
quickly. Like a meadowlark skimming the clouds on a cool summer morning, just before a big ol' hawk
swoops down and decapitates the silly bird in flight.

Like that. I mean well.

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DarwinofMind
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posted 04-11-2001 03:02 PM

I say just let if fad Forrester, I'm going to try to rebuild what I can, and get Howfully I'll PDF it and get Eric to
archive it,

It was buetiful, lets just let it rest in peace.

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Bugaboo
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posted 04-11-2001 03:04 PM

I say revive the monster! Let it live again! I've only just rekindled my interest in the grandiose world I
helped create!

Of course, knowing you guys, all my messages will probably be deleted and credit given to other users. ...

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Bran Blackbyrd
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posted 04-11-2001 03:08 PM

I have virtually everything.
Original thread pages 1-16
second thread pages 1-5 (I'm looking for the rest right now in the cache)
I don't save a page until it's full, and I went to bed during page 6.

I'll keep looking.

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Me: Do they have multiple Orc-Chasms?
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DarwinofMind
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posted 04-11-2001 03:09 PM

yep, Buggaboo I already went through my archive and did a find replace, Bugaboo, and replaced it with
DarwinofMind.

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Forrester
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posted 04-11-2001 03:10 PM

Well, the story needed an ending -- that's all.

Let's wait to hear back from Edena. Things *did* end a bit abruptly, after all.

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Estlor
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posted 04-11-2001 03:12 PM

The last I recall the Psionics whatsamabobbit sacrificed themselves to purify the weave and the entire
planet. The Illithid vaporized, and elves from Mystara moved in to try and help rebuild (hell, they even
offered to help Forrester's humanoids as by now they're definitely one of the civilized races).

I say we leave it at that. Makes for one hell of a campaign world. Except Eleminster survived And of all
the evil things... I had to TEAM UP with that guy. I feel tainted just for bringing him into it.

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Mr. Draco
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posted 04-11-2001 03:22 PM

agreed, i say we leave it as it is...

This is also because i am planning to use it as a campaign world i am starting in my first game as a DM
tommorow...

So, could all of you who participated help me flesh out the world?

My chache has none of the posts, so the help would be appreciated...

Then, once we have the entire world situation fleshed out, we can have eric archive the thread, so it will
never be lost, hurry and post what you remember at my new topic "History of toril during the industrial
revolution"

Post before you forget, and bugaboo, please don't joke around.

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Forrester
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posted 04-11-2001 03:22 PM

The point is, Estlor, is that I don't WANT any stinking elves on Toril.

In case you weren't paying attention, that was pretty much the point of wiping them out completely and
totally .

The only reason the elves were invited in by someone is so that they could help with this stupid Weave.
Well, psionics healed it -- I hope Edena will let a bunch of psionic humanoids maintain it.

I want Toril to be ELF FREE. Is there anything wrong with that?

Forrester

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Mr. Draco
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posted 04-11-2001 03:27 PM

Quick everybody to the new thread and post what you remember of Toril from the thread "What would you
do if gnomes started the industrial revolution"..

The goal of this thread is to flesh out Toril (from our thread) as a campaign world for use.

Forrester, this means if the thread is finished, you can run campaigns to exterminate the elves with your
own players...

When we finish, eric can archive it, and we will never loose it..

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Sciurus Rex
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posted 04-11-2001 03:28 PM

I never really bought into the scenario, and reading about it here now I have to wonder why you ever
pluralized the races.

ALL the elves are dead? ALL gnomes are tinkers? I suppose ALL orcs snored in their sleep, too.

You could probably rewrite/edit the original messages to change each race to a single representative, and
not change a thing. "Then the gnome and the halfling killed the elf as an example to the uppity human..."

History is richly populated with individuals, not cliche' races.

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Forrester
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posted 04-11-2001 03:31 PM

Draco -- don't rush it. It looks like between the original 16-page thread (already archived), and the pages
that Darwin and whatshisface was able to recover, we'll have 95% of the story.

Once we have that, I'll tack on the ending -- on my side, it was mostly reacting to the new Weave and trying
to become Toril's new protectors.

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LazyDM
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posted 04-11-2001 03:33 PM

Whoah. Edena's reposting everything from the lost thread! He's got to be the coolest macro-DM I've ever
seen!

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Edena_of_Neith
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posted 04-11-2001 03:42 PM

I've finished reposting.
I'm going to take a break now, folks.
I'm beat.

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Bran Blackbyrd
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posted 04-11-2001 03:43 PM

Here are all of the pages I have, in zipped format, and as individual html files. Just click the lame button (I
hope it worked.)




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DM: You see there are orcs camped out in the chasm ahead of you.
Me: Do they have multiple Orc-Chasms?
Warlocke's Realm

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Riot Gear
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posted 04-11-2001 09:14 PM

Edena, thank you very much for the fun time you've given us all. I'd like to do it again some time, and I
think you might enjoy it again too. How about we give you a little time to recover, then one of us starts a
war and we do this again?

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DarwinofMind
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posted 04-11-2001 09:20 PM

Well, I personally thought part of the wonder was the uniqueness, but if another starts I'm in.

But I suggest a different suject, different world, (like world matter last time the whole multiverse got in)
And we play different people.

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Riot Gear
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posted 04-11-2001 09:31 PM

Yes, definitely.

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Forrester
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posted 04-11-2001 10:12 PM

I too must laud Edena for an excellent, EXCELLENT game.

Especially the way she let us humanoids kill all of the elves. That was especially nifty.

Fantastic job, Edena. Pat yourself on the back.

But one thing -- let's not start up another one for at least another good week. I haven't gotten ANY work
done because of this thing!

Forrester
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Sacred Cow
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posted 04-11-2001 11:01 PM

Yes, Edena is all we ever talk about back at the Sacred Barn.

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Edena_of_Neith
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posted 04-12-2001 04:53 AM


I really do appreciate the praise. Thank you.

I wish to return that praise. To all of you. You are great Gamers, you know that?

People like you make the Game happen. You make it fun.

People like you make it possible for WOTC to survive, made it possible for TSR to become great during
it's heyday.

People like you will ensure that Dungeons and Dragons is always with us.

- - -

I was just trying to have fun. After a previous grim post, I thought a humorous post, a light-hearted post,
was in order.

I never dreamed that it would quickly (in 3 days) grow to 100 posts, then double to 200 posts in 7 hours,
then double again to nearly 400 posts in the next 12 hours.
In all, including the substitute posts, the Thread went on for 600 Posts.
Threads related to it occupied another 100 Posts.

You guys (and girls) are great. I hope to continue on these message boards with you.

Thank you for the wild romp! I had a great time. Thanks to you.

There is one minor detail, though, that I must now confess to the world, and it is truly an enormous
confession:

I am male.

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Upper_Krust
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posted 04-12-2001 06:10 AM

Hi 'Edena'

Perhaps next time I will get in on the act from the beginning!?

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Gez
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posted 04-12-2001 06:44 AM


quote:

Originally posted by Edena_of_Neith:
There is one minor detail, though, that I must now confess to the world, and it is truly an
enormous confession:

I am male.



You should rename yourself. Edena sounds feminine. Noone would have trouble picturing a
Edenor_of_Neith as male. Or Edenio, Edenard, etc. Just avoid Edenette.

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zouron
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posted 04-12-2001 07:27 AM

Well edena, I like to take the time to thank you as well, it was a wonderous game and well knowing how
things have been for you my friend, I am truly amazed with the interest and fire you have runned this
with. You are an amazing dm I can see, do let us all see that in use again, and hopefully soon. Thank
you my friend for a most amazing game.

Signed your friend,
zouron

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Bugaboo
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posted 04-12-2001 08:06 AM

I, too, would like to thank everyone at The Academy for making this possible.

I, too, am male. Although some of your requests for me to play the part of a female are appreciated.

I, too, was surprised that the thread could grow to more than 100. Whodathunkit?

You make this job fun. I couldn't do it without you.

Well, actually I could. But I don't want to discourage my "little people."

I must go now. This was tiring. My bed awaits.

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Estlor
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posted 04-12-2001 12:58 PM

Not to steal the show from Edena, but seriously, maybe those of us in on this should take turns, "DMing,"
a situation, just so no one suffers burnout.

Plus that way we can come at it from different settings and different situations. We've torn FR apart, guess
that leaves us:

Greyhawk
Dark Sun
Mystara
Birthright
Ravenloft
Dragonlance

I'd volunteer to run one (all be it a bit more orderly and organized the second time around) on Mystara
for you people sometime, if the interest is there.

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voz
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posted 04-12-2001 01:15 PM

I did not have internet access for a few days what post was this?

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Riot Gear
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posted 04-12-2001 03:15 PM

How about this:

"What would your characters do if the gnomes constructed a Gate to our own earth and started selling
magical widgets?"

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DarwinofMind
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posted 04-12-2001 07:27 PM

Well, I'm all for the destruction of Ravenloft,

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Estlor
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posted 04-12-2001 09:16 PM

Ravenloft we could have some fun with

Dibs on the flesh golems

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Mr. Draco
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posted 04-11-2001 10:45 AM

Eric, for my sake and others, please archive all of the threads involving the "what would your pc's do if the
gnomes invented the industrial revolution". At my last count that was three threads. I plan to use that plot
in one of my DnD games, (i am DM) and it would be a shame not to have it, so untill futher notice, please
archive those threads.

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posted 04-11-2001 11:22 AM

Before I do that, could someone in that group pick a spokesperson? I don't want one person saying "time
to archive" and another coming to me later and saying "oops you archived that too soon." Once it goes in
the archive it can't come back out...

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Edena_of_Neith
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posted 04-11-2001 11:40 AM

I'll be spokesperson.
I started this. (sigh)
The first big Thread, the one with 384 posts, created by me.
The second thread, created by Forrester to replace mine.
These should be archived.
I sent you the information via e-mail, Eric. Did you receive it?

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Edena_of_Neith
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posted 04-11-2001 11:41 AM

I'll be spokesperson.
I started this.
The first big Thread, the one with 384 posts, created by me.
The second thread, created by Forrester to replace mine.
These should be archived.
I sent you the information via e-mail, Eric. Did you receive it?

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Edena_of_Neith
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posted 04-11-2001 12:42 PM


To Eric Noah:

I have been having serious trouble in the last hour accessing the message board.
That is why this response is so delayed.

I will be the spokesperson.
I will have to be. I started everything.

The first post I put up, which is now locked, and which has 384 posts to it, titled What Would Your PCs Do
if the Gnomes Invented the Industrial Revolution? - that's the approximate name - should be archived.
The second post, created by Forrester to replace mine, should be archived. It has 58 Posts.

The third post, titled What Would Your PCs Do if the Gnomes Invented the Industrial Revolution, Part Two,
is obviously still active.

I have e-mailed you, Eric. I hope you got my e-mail. Just trying to resolve matters here.
Any information you request, I'll supply as I can.

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Edena_of_Neith
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posted 04-11-2001 12:44 PM


To Eric Noah:

I have been having serious trouble in the last hour accessing the message board.
That is why this response is so delayed.

I will be the spokesperson.
I will have to be. I started everything.

The first post I put up, which is now locked, and which has 384 posts to it, titled What Would Your PCs Do
if the Gnomes Invented the Industrial Revolution? - that's the approximate name - should be archived.
The second post, created by Forrester to replace mine, should be archived. It has 58 Posts.

The third post, titled What Would Your PCs Do if the Gnomes Invented the Industrial Revolution, Part Two,
is obviously still active.

I have e-mailed you, Eric. I hope you got my e-mail. Just trying to resolve matters here.
Any information you request, I'll supply as I can.

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EricNoah
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posted 04-11-2001 01:20 PM

Message board has been down for about an hour, so that's why it's acting kind of flaky...

I've already archived the first one, and I'll archive the other right now.

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Bugaboo
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posted 04-11-2001 01:25 PM

(sigh) OK. I'll be the spokesperson.

Eric, archive all my messages, as well as any messages that include my name ... NOW.

And do something about Edna's thread, too, while you're at it.

Don't make me have to tell you twice.

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TheBalor
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posted 04-10-2001 11:21 PM

EricNoah, could you please put it in the archives? It'd be a shame to have go away, and now that it's closed
and the 2nd thread has been started, it seems very likely that will happen.

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Bran Blackbyrd
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posted 04-10-2001 11:42 PM

The Faerie Folk League and the Gathering of Druids have Teh Funneh and we are prepared to unleash it's
unadulterated power on the masses, unless peace is met immediately!!!

Errr, whu? Where am I? Nevermind, there's nothing to see here...

I have the entire thread saved now.

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Me: Do they have multiple Orc-Chasms?
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posted 04-11-2001 09:45 AM

It's now in a new archive section.

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Bugaboo
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posted 04-11-2001 01:53 PM

So when we left off, there was some sort of conference thingy that fell apart because the gnomes had
discovered plutonium or something.

And then elves invented ... (insert theatrical music here) ... MIRRORS! From that moment on, the entire
race was overcome with an urge to gaze lovingly at itself and let the rest of the world rot.

The Gnomish Counsel of Angry Beaver Engineers took control of the Orc Waterwheel project and declared
that area an environmental hazard.

Unbeknownst to the rest of the races, however, the gnomes were working in cahoots with greedy humans
from Neith who really wanted to harvest all the Cap'n Crunch berries in the national park. They were
paying the gnomes under the table.

What happens next?...

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Cevalic
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posted 04-11-2001 02:20 PM

Well, a lot of races find themselves controlled by one person, and being made to do things they don't
really want to do. All they want is peace, but these people keep manipulating them. So they fight, even
though it doesn't make sense. And then all the races wipe each other out, leaving only the people
controlling them alive.

Wow.

Trolls will inherit the earth.

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She shut up...

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Bugaboo
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posted 04-11-2001 02:20 PM

Oh yeah, I almost forgot: All the dwarves were neutered for aesthetic reasons (no more facial hair growth
driven by hormones!). They still aren't happy about that.

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Sigma
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posted 04-11-2001 02:38 PM


quote:

Originally posted by Bugaboo:
Oh yeah, I almost forgot: All the dwarves were neutered for aesthetic reasons (no more
facial hair growth driven by hormones!). They still aren't happy about that.


Will that reduce their Str by -4 and increase their Cha and Wis by +2?

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posted 04-11-2001 02:44 PM

The nuetered dwarves, in a rage over the injustice of what happened to them, dig deeper into the earth
hoping to find escape from the other races laughing at them.

The greedy humans of Neith creep to the patches of Capt Crunch berries in the middle of the night. They
load picnic bastket after picnic basket full of them. Out of the darkness, a dire bear and his regular cousin
swoop down and steal all the baskets.

Quick: Where do the elves stand?

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posted 04-11-2001 02:45 PM

We need to know where the elves stand!

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posted 04-11-2001 02:46 PM

WHERE DO THE F***IN' ELVES STAND?

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posted 04-11-2001 02:54 PM

If you'ld read it before making fun of us you'ld know the elves are dead.

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posted 04-11-2001 02:56 PM

Actually Darwin, I did read it. This is a different world. If you notice all the elves are looking in mirrors.
They aren't dead, just vain.

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Bugaboo
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posted 04-11-2001 02:56 PM

Thanks, Dar.

Then I guess the elves are standing in their mausoleums. They wanted to be buried in an upright
position. That's where they stand.

Don't the orcs speak Yiddish, or some other draconic language?

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posted 04-11-2001 02:58 PM

Far from the south, an army of kobold gathers. There strenght includes:

500 kobold commoners
100 puppies
3 orcs
2.5 dogs (don't ask)

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posted 04-11-2001 03:03 PM

The angry buzzing of hundreds of kazoos thunders through the golden glen (or dale; I forget which guy
it's named after).

By the way, did we mention that they're riding cyborg halflings? Yeah, kolbolds cornered the market on
bio-implants. And halflings needed the cash to pay off gambling debts (for an entire race), so they sold
their bodies into transportation slavery. Morons.

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posted 04-11-2001 03:04 PM

Umm. Is the new war over yet? I really have to go to work. No? Ok. I'll just skip work and stay here
tonight.

Actually. No I won't. Good luck Bugaboo. Those dwarves are really annoyed.

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posted 04-11-2001 03:08 PM

Oh and don't forget the army of cross dressing Lizardmen who ride blind beholders into battle while
singing Hit Me Baby One More Time.

Sends shivers down my spine just to think about it.

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posted 04-11-2001 03:30 PM

Who was responsible for uplifting the dire poodles race to full sentience?

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Edena_of_Neith
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posted 04-11-2001 03:44 PM

I've finished reposting the lost Thread, folks.
It was a major endeavor and I'm tired.
Will be offline for a while.

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posted 04-11-2001 03:54 PM

Hey! Who invited you to poke your nose into our most serious and wonderful world-creation thread?! I
haven't completed my self-aggrandizement yet.

And who are the "folks" that you're talking to, anyway? Hello? Folks?

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posted 04-11-2001 04:53 PM

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posted 04-12-2001 07:23 AM

Since it is edena's idea, and not yours and he has continued the thread. I think he did it to inform you
that the official thread is now over, nothing more then the final nignagging left. You seem to like the idea
so don't go shout at the creator for being friendly, gee edena had a tough job doing this really. just thank
him and say you want to continues this for a while

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posted 04-12-2001 07:35 AM

*From deep in the recesses of the Southern Swamps, a great yowling was heard. Then all was quiet for a while.
Then another yowling was heard, only this one wasn't so great...more of a long yawn, really. Then, unbeknownst
to the rest of the world, a tiny rift was opened in the heart of the swamp. (What the heck kind of word is
"unbeknownst"?) Through this festering hole, a tiny force of Slaad oozed into the mortal world. (I mean
really..."unbeknownst"? What literary genius thought that one up?) The oddly-colored beasts sniffed the air
and smiled in their strange, gurgly way.

The Periwinkle Slaad walk the planet.*

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posted 04-12-2001 08:01 AM


quote:

Originally posted by zouron:
Since it is edena's idea, and not yours ... just thank him and say you want to continues this
for a while


Ahh! I disagree, dear Zoroun. This thread was MY idea, not Edna's. And I'll thank YOU to keep your +15
Troublemaker skill out of this.

Sheesh. The nerve of some people.
I wouldn't be surprised if Sacred Cow decided to crash this thread and the other "Industrial" parallel reality
thread all over again...

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posted 04-12-2001 08:31 AM


I am bowing out for now.

I'm still posting, but not like that (not at the rate of 1 per 10 minutes!)
I really enjoyed the 2 threads, and I know other people did (they said so.)
That's what's important. People had fun. People having fun is what's important, in my opinion.

If I am lucky, Eric will post my second Thread to the Archives, and all will be able to read our impromptu
story there.

If you'all are attempting to start again, I wish you all fun. I hope everyone has a good time.

Yours Sincerely
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posted 04-12-2001 09:34 AM

Edna, I hope you realize THIS isn't THAT thread. It's a different thread. Your most recent message above
sort of sounds like you think this is the same "industrial-strength gnome revolution" thread you started.

Well it's not!

Sheesh. What a bunch of spoilsports.

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posted 04-12-2001 09:47 AM

The Army of Technopsionic Destrachan gather and crush all the elves. Then they capture all the dwarves
and put them in their frigidairs for when they will be hungry.

But before lunch, they have to fight all those naughty cyberbeholders, as well as the army of Dire Fiendish
Pizzas summoned by this Bullywug archmage.

Who will eat the others first ? The Pizzas, the Nano-augmented Beholders or the Technopsionic
Confederation of Lustful Destrachan ?

All that depends of the side the weresquirrels will chose, as their mighty Nut Golem will make the
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posted 04-12-2001 04:02 PM

C'mon people. This is a serious thread. Edena, have you even read this? Or are you just posting on every
thread you think is linked to yours. Now lets stay on track.

Back to reality.

The five thousand draconic steel golems are finally complete. They are flying to the battlefield right now,
bearing exploding kegs full of ale.

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posted 04-12-2001 04:13 PM

Hah! That's what you think, Silly Cevalic! When you weren't watching, 9,217 dissident orc-gnomelings peed
in the ale, changing the chemical composition just enough to make it non-explosive but highly acidic. The
draconic steel golems dissolved shortly after take-off, spreading thier deadly cargo over the gypsy half-elf
nation of Squiggly.

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posted 04-10-2001 05:41 PM

Whats "What would your PCs do if gnomes invented the Industrial Revolution?" all about?

14 pages.. thats alot.. What's the thread all about, really? I dont want to read 14 pages if it's just some
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posted 04-10-2001 05:44 PM

I'm sure a lot of people would like to know this before commiting to reading 14 pages.

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posted 04-10-2001 05:45 PM

I prefer the thread, "What would your PCs do if they found a gnome crammed up your ..."

Well, nevermind.

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posted 04-10-2001 05:45 PM

I simply asked a theoretical question:

I asked:

What would you do if the gnomes of Toril had begun the industrial revolution?
What would your characters do?

My question is the first Post on the first page of the Thread.

Everything that happened after that, every Post, is in direct response to that question.

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posted 04-10-2001 05:49 PM

I gotta tell you, if you've got some time to kill, this is one you might want to spend the time reading.

I won't kid you, it'll take some time, and it's FAR from serious, but I'm having fun.

Enkhidu

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posted 04-10-2001 05:50 PM

Okey.. When you check page 14 anbd read stuff like "power level", "illithid" and
dwarf/gnome/whatever-hating, you become slightly confused if it transformed to something else...

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posted 04-10-2001 05:51 PM

It's not a joke, actually, it's more akin to macro-Roleplaying.

The premise is that the Gnomes ignited the Industrial Revolution, and Edena wanted to know what our
PCs would do in such an occasion.

It turned into something far greater from there...

First off, advocates of the Elves and the Druids decided to start a war against such environmental
atrocities. The gnomes, in concert with the humans (that'd be Buzzard, myself and Lannon), started to
battle back this war of Elven aggression.

The Elves were fighting for the environment, as were the Druids. The humans and the gnomes, under the
Banner of the Technocracy/Technomancy, believed that the Elves had no right in dictating what these
sovereign nations could do and could not do.

The war escalated, the Humanoids (Goblins, Orcs, Ogres, and what-not) joined our side, and we gave
them tech. This brought anyone against the humanoids against us. Someone on the humanoid side
summoned Devils and other fiends to help them, that brought in almost everyone else.

The Elves decided to invoke some spell that destroyed the balance of magic in the Realms, and it pretty
much pissed everyone off. Believing that they'd come out the victors after the Spell of Karsus or whatever,
they just made it so that the illithids could take a piece of the surface world pie.

Things got bad, and we warred like nothing seen in the multiverse (well, maybe not the Blood War).
Sooner than later, things got WAY out of hand, and the Technocracy lost the will to fight, seeing that we'd
win easily, or the world would be destroyed as a result.

Currently, we're at the bargaining table to hammer out an agreement. The Humanoids still want war, but
we, their allies, do not. We do not condone the use of Fiends as allies.

That's it in a pinch, it's far more intricate than that, but hey, I'm a part of the Technocracy, we have other
things to do.

Rep.

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posted 04-10-2001 05:58 PM

I'm an Illithid diplomat to the surface world! We've had a Golden Age, and have reached new
technological, psionic, and magical heights, and are slowly shifting towards Neutral in alignment. My
character is experimenting on consuming brains without killing the occupants.

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posted 04-10-2001 08:01 PM

My character tried to sabotage the effort before it could get off the ground.

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posted 04-10-2001 08:08 PM

This IS getting out of hand - there's a thread about the thread!

For those interested, the war has grown to include fiends, celestials, psionicists and defilers from Athas,
the Elven Imperial Navy from Realmspace, and Aerdy and Iuz of Oerth.

Someone found Elminster and he's not very happy....

This really is a fascinating thread. If you have the time, read through it.

[I represent the demons and devils that have been called into the war]

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posted 04-10-2001 08:31 PM

I as a necromancer, first gathered wizards under my banner to preserve the nature of magic and research
how tech and magic could function together and also how to gom in harmony with nature, then tried to
create a hope of peace by forcing the sides to work together... but others intered the fray soo..., anyway
mostly with drew for a time gathered resources. the elves casted that cursed spell of nullification so after
that stopped I sent out my forceds to gather land and destroy the foolish elven sorcerers that had access
to such a spell (unsuccessfully), being one of the weakest forces I haven't accomplished lots, but trying to
establish a single country for the nature of magic, by allying with oputsiders, using undead and
spellcasters.

in a few alliances at the moment nothing big though

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Equinox
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posted 04-11-2001 03:21 PM

Well we obviously know now what would happen if the gnomes invented the industrial revolution.

*grabs trusty battle axe*

time to kill some big-nosed halflings

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posted 04-11-2001 03:29 PM

What *happened* is that the humanoid hordes (led by yours truly) wiped out all of the elves on Toril. ALL
of them. They got pissy and tried to destroy the world. When that failed, they decided to erase the thread,
so that news of their defeat might be hidden from all.

Well, nyeah, nyeah, nyeah.

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posted 04-11-2001 05:05 PM


quote:

Originally posted by Forrester:
What *happened* is that the humanoid hordes (led by yours truly) wiped out all of the
elves on Toril. ALL of them. They got pissy and tried to destroy the world. When that failed,
they decided to erase the thread, so that news of their defeat might be hidden from all.

Well, nyeah, nyeah, nyeah.


Speaking as leader of the Elven forces, I will simply say that that was a somewhat skewed opinion.

Blood Jester

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posted 04-11-2001 05:29 PM

Well, it looks like it's all over now. Thanks to a noble sacrifice of a certain faction, the Weave binding Toril
together was not only restored, but powered even stronger than before. This had the effect of not only
killing all the Illithid planetside, but totally cut off the crystal sphere of the Realms from any form of travel
the Illithids could manage. Now it's down to a matter of whether or not the fae races will remain on the
planet, or if the Weave can be held together without their presence, which will decide whether or not
technology or magic reign on the planet... one or the other must go.

It's worth reading the whole thing to see how it came this far.

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posted 04-11-2001 06:25 PM

I am leader of the Scro alliance consisting of githyanki, githzeral, Scro(humaniods), and
Thri-kreen(xixchil). We kicked much tail. We defeated the elves, gained vast knowledge in technology,
magic and psionics. In fact, we had a influx of psions. We now control realmspace(grins) . The Elves
have been paid back 5 fold for defeating us in the inhuman Wars. There are only small pockets of Elves
in Realmspace, and they are living in caves, eating berries and fungus, and ducking for cover whenever a
orc walks by . Talk about a role reversal.

Soon we shall, finish humbling the illithiad, as the they have big heads and look like squids.


Nok
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the out come is certain

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posted 04-12-2001 01:59 AM

The most important long range result was the devils aquireing guns.

Do you really want to contemplate a Pit Fiend with a Gatling gun?

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posted 04-12-2001 02:45 AM

I dunno about that . . .
I think psionic kobolds with machine guns are a bit scarier.

Before Edena's Campaign:

One Pit Fiend >> 100 kobolds

After Edena's Campaign:

100 psionic kobolds with machine guns >>> One Pit Fiend with a machine gun

Not that we plan on warring against you, mighty fiends. We're the ones that supplied you the weaponry,
after all .

Forrester

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Estlor
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posted 04-12-2001 10:07 AM

Let me say this much, Forrester - you're lucky Edena didn't give anyone time to react to anything. Because
had Blood Jester been online, or had I been speaking for the elves, I sure know they would have attacked
the minute you started soliciting help.

At that point they still out-powered you

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posted 04-12-2001 10:14 AM


quote:

Originally posted by Enkhidu:
I gotta tell you, if you've got some time to kill, this is one you might want to spend the
time reading.


I dunno. I tried to read the part 2 thread to see what all the hubbub was. But all I saw was munchkin wars
(witchlight vs. the tarasque? puh-lease) and genocidal fantasies. Not my idea of worthwhile reading.

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Aloïsius
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posted 04-12-2001 09:51 AM

I was too late for the industrial gnomes thread. Many folks want to start a new.

But for starting a realy new similar thread, we first have to find a "what if", as good as Edena's "what if the
gnomes...".
I propose we post a lot of "what if" idea, and then make a poll to chose. It could be a monthly pool, and
a regular feature of the board.
Then, after choosing the "what if", the setting and the referee(s), all participant submit
characters/factions, and the referee(s) give them power indications. (I propose more than one number :
diplomatic power, military power, economic power and magic power)
then the referee(s) set time limites for the war, something like a rendez-vous on the board.
It coul look like a PEBM, but quicker, shorter, simpler, and with much more fun.
The referee(s) doesn't need precise rules, only (some)neutrality and (a little)imagination, and free time
to spent.


Ok, no it's time to post "what if"

*what if magic spring into a non-magic medieval world? this is the reverse of Edena's questions.
*what if a magical disease, involving a retro-virus start among the various race of a world, causing DNA
permutations : the gobelins are "mutated" into kenders, the orcs into satyres, the humans into bullywug,
and forrester into an elf . The disease spread slowly but inexorably, and only one specie is not affected
(Illithid).
*what if someone discover the elixir of eternity, and sell the recipe to everybody. Soon the world will be an
overcrowned place...
*what if a one way gate is open between a classic D&D setting, and Earth 2050, with futuristic human
invaders.
*what if the gods suddenly stop to give spells to their followers. (no more cleric...)
etc, I'm sure somebody will have more ideas.

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posted 04-12-2001 10:08 AM

another one
*what if the soul of the dead don't depart? Now, each dead creatures become an undead...What will you
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Riot Gear
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posted 04-11-2001 04:27 PM

Guys, thanks for a blast of a time. We tore Toril to shreds and loved every second.

Let's do it again. Anyone up to DMing such an endeavor again?

Post to this thread and tell us the following for the next go through:

Who your character is and some modicum of personal stats (Race and Level, any artifacts)

What faction or force they control.

Also, if/when we do this again, do you want to do the same war we just did, or think up something else
that'll wreak havoc? Like, say - The Illithid pouring in to Faerun in the year 1723 Forgotten Realms time?

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Lord Garoth and his machine-gun toting devils will be ready for the next conflict. We don't care who wants
us on thier side, so long as we can get weapons for the blood war and we aren't expected to ally with
demons.

Lord Garoth is a Pit Fiend general charged with finding new weapons (tech, magic, psionics, whatever) in
the blood war. He has five pit fiends under him and a battalion of lesser devils. Should demons become
involved, he has the authority to call upon more troops.

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posted 04-11-2001 04:58 PM

Spine-Tickler is a Neo Illithid from the NeoIllithid faction. He is going to be leading them should another
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posted 04-11-2001 06:25 PM

ba-bumpity bump.

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posted 04-11-2001 06:30 PM

Due to time constraints I shall cede my position as leader of the Fey for the next conflict.

But thanks again for the fun you typing-mad maniacs.

Blood Jester

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Edena_of_Neith
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posted 04-11-2001 06:40 PM

Thank you for the implied compliment.
I appreciate it.
But I, for now at least, am returning to more sedate postings (sedate is relative here ... )

Cheers to my fellow Gamers! To all, let us have fun, and may our campaigns prosper!

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posted 04-11-2001 06:42 PM

I am Nok a goblin . You might know know me from my battles with ermith the great psion in the your
all weak thread. I am a 5/22+ level theif/wizard/wildtalent psionic with a blood line strenght of 59. I have
mastered many forms of magic including wildmagic, defiling, chronomancy, rhul-tal life shaping, chaos
magic, harper and old magic. My spell library is huge. I also have several minor artifacts including: a staff
and robe of the magi, a planar gate and the psionatrix under my control.

I control a circle of wizards about 150 strong and about 40 psions, plus about of 500 mundane followers.
We are based in limbo. We count both the githyanki and the githzeral as our allies. We have also had
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Psionicist
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posted 04-11-2001 02:00 PM

Page 2 to 6 still work!!

http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~dnd3e/ubb/Forum17/HTML/003222-8.html

link to page 8!

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posted 04-11-2001 02:01 PM

Da*n..

I mean Page 2 to 8

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posted 04-11-2001 02:01 PM

uh except every page says the exact same thing...

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posted 04-11-2001 02:15 PM

Oops...

But it's atelast one page

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Estlor
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posted 04-11-2001 03:08 PM

Well, I'll say this much.

The elves couldn't stop the war.
Or the dwarves
the gnomes
the halflings
the kender
the fey
the dragons
the defilers
the githyenki
the sea people
the elementals
the illithid
the humans
the goblinoids
the orcs
the gnolls
the kobolds
the celestials
the demons
the devils
the angels
Eleminster
the forces of Iuz
the elven population of Oerth...

But SERVER TROUBLE could bring the war to it's knees!

Why didn't I think of that on page 1?

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Broken Fang
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posted 04-11-2001 11:01 PM

Since the recent Gnomes take over the world w/ technology post. I just wanted to see what
technological inventions everyone thought might be created. Remember magic is prevelent and tech
is not...dwarves and elves live 100's of years.


I think with ore cars and track, I could see the dwarves take the next logical step and make rail
ways.


What other inventions wouold or would not be made?

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TheShadowOfMyFormerSelf
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posted 04-12-2001 02:15 AM

Nuclear anti-gnome warheads?

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Felix
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posted 04-12-2001 05:14 AM

With a magical gear that turns by itself you can create a fully automatic belt feed (laser sighted with
the correct light spells) geavy crossbow

-Felix

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Snoweel
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posted 04-12-2001 07:02 AM

As you say, with a proliferance of magic in a campaign world, technology would advance much slower
than in historical Earth.

IRL, the primary source of technological invention has been from military application. Other areas of
life have benefitted in a "trickle down" kind of way.

Did you know that they had a Pentium processor on the 1979 Space Shuttle?

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Gez
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posted 04-12-2001 07:50 AM

As you say, with a proliferance of magic in a campaign world, technology would advance much slower than
in historical Earth.
So instead of learning how to start a fire, everyone would be druid casting Heat Metal.
So instead of crafting sword, everyone will be druids using magic fang to fight.

The flaw in this assumption is that magic is available to just everyone. This is not the case.

The prevalence of magic will cause only one thing: that technologic will be based on magic also. As I
said several, several, oh-so several times before, with magic you can have infinite power supply, so
most of the problems of industry (how to gather energy) are solved. With this energy problem
solved, you also solve much of the problems of pollutions (you don't need to burn oil or coal, nor
plutonium, you don't have all these nuclear waste and carbonic gases).

At high level, pure technology will be something rare, seen as both complicated, hazardeous and
unreliable. The use of magic just magically ease things. However, at low level, for day to day
activities, you will have objects that you can use without having to know magic.

This won't be an incentive to forsake magic. First because wizard's job will be engineer's job: they
exist, they are well payed, and we really need them.
Second because, if magic existed on Earth as it exist in say, Greyhawk, I know we will be numerous
to go to the arcane college. I want to cast Fly, I really want. Darkvision is nice also.
So, technology will not deprive magic of its glamour, it will instead add even more fun in magic
because it will be merely an extension of magic's capacities.
Look at the Golems: they are the best example of magic robots you could find. Compare them with
normal robots... Golems, particularly Iron Golem, are what could be considered as a Technomancic
device.

That's how technology in D&D would be if those blasted elves weren't a bunch of genocidal
obscurantist. Fortunately, they're all dead.

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Broken Fang
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posted 04-12-2001 08:34 PM

So what I want to know...since magic is not available to everyone. What inventions might be made
by inventors that would be useable by the masses?
Again the train would be useful for movement of people/troops. More able than any form of mass
transport spell...except some type of teleport circle. What other things might be made?

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