Iron golem with sword, iterative attacks?

[Voadam]

OK the normal iron golem has 2 slams and a +12 BAB.

The description says "Iron golems sometimes carry a short sword in one hand."

they should get iterative attacks with this large short sword and a secondary attack with one slam (at -5), correct?

And there is no reason you could not substitute in a large greatsword though, right? and get the iterative attacks with the +1.5 str bonus on damage.

 

[Voadam]

Looking over the srd I found the skeleton example of a cloud giant skeleton with iterative attacks, so I don't think being mindless prevents iteratives.

 

[Rhun]

And there is no reason you could not substitute in a large greatsword though, right? and get the iterative attacks with the +1.5 str bonus on damage.

Other than the fact that it sounds really scary? Sounds like a fun way to beef the golem up. I don't see any rules issues with it.

 

[Voadam]

Lord of the Iron Fortress had blade golems (iron golems with swords or axes in each hand) with only two attacks. I modified them to have iteratives in my game. This built off the 2e description of bladeling swordmaster souls being used as the bound spirit in blade golems, which I had come up in game in the journal of a rakshasa who had investigated blade golems, found a sage knowledgeable in them, tortured the info and creation process out of her, then kidnapped some bladeling swordmasters and made his own.

 

[Jhaelen]

Lord of the Iron Fortress had blade golems (iron golems with swords or axes in each hand) with only two attacks.

That's not quite correct. They had swords or axes in place of hands, thus they were their 'natural' weapons, therefore no iterative attacks.
If a normal iron golem is wielding a weapon it will get iterative attacks but you have to take into account that it is not proficient with it.

 

[frankthedm]

The weapon is ornamental.

If a normal iron golem is wielding a weapon it will get iterative attacks but you have to take into account that it is not proficient with it.

Yep.

Heck, putting a suit of actual armor on the golem is probably worth it sucking up the to hit penalty. It works out to be a better trade off than Combat Expertise, other than the speed reduction.

Here is a chart that has the entire advancement range of the iron golem.

 

[Diirk]

Humanoid shaped constructs are proficient with weapons mentioned in their description, so I'd say iron golems would be proficient with short swords. Not long swords or greatswords, though.

 

[Goolpsy]

A golem made to carry the certain sword could very well be proficient... "blabla this particular golem is proficient with the Axe it carries" <-- etc.

Since the Weapon is build for the golem / golem build for the weapon

 

[messy]

The description says "Iron golems sometimes carry a short sword in one hand."

they should get iterative attacks with this large short sword and a secondary attack with one slam (at -5), correct?

the terrible iron golem gets iterative attacks with its sword and uses a whip in its off hand

messy

 

[Dross]

A golem made to carry the certain sword could very well be proficient... "blabla this particular golem is proficient with the Axe it carries" <-- etc.

Since the Weapon is build for the golem / golem build for the weapon

The problem here is that Axe is not a weapon mentioned in the monster description, thus it is not proficient with it, even if axe is made for the golem. (As Diirk said)

Mind you, Large iron golem = large short sword.