Iron Lore: Malhavoc's Surprise?

[A'koss]

Handling dragons doesn't worry me, there will be will probably be several ways to skin that cat from targetted shots, perhaps skill use to taunt/challenge the dragon to closing to melee to perhaps some of the story-based ways we've been hearing. Handling incorporeal undead however could prove a little more challenging... I was just thinking that maybe there will be conventional ways of handing such creatures - similar to the way there are mundane vulnerabilities in vampires. Cold iron? Mirrors to entrap them? Blood of X animal? Fingerbones of a "saint"? I was thinking of the movie Constantine earlier and how something in that vein might apply...


Cheers!

 

[AdmundfortGeographer]

This whole dragon argument has got to be one of the biggest straw men, ever. The game is five months from release.

Why does 5 months from release matter?

Do you know how much time it can take a manuscript once submitted to be copyedited (especially an RPG sourcebook!), corrections made (with or without author input), laid out, art drawn and purchased, indexed, sent to printer, printed, and distributed to stores? I've worked at a book publisher as has my wife.

What's so "straw man-ish" about the LMFDD issue?


Regards,
Eric Anondson

 

[tetsujin28]

Why does 5 months from release matter?

Do you know how much time it can take a manuscript once submitted to be copyedited (especially an RPG sourcebook!),

Why, yes, having been a copyeditor for several gaming companies. And believe me, in many cases, changes go on 'till the very last minute.

It's a straw man because the game isn't out yet. It's an argument that only exists in nihilo until release. When the game comes out, hey, maybe it will turn out to be a problem for some people. But until then, such speculations are meaningless.

 

[Nightfall]

Tet,

Nah. This is a silly arguement but at least the merits are decent. Now the Eberron smiting on THIS thread http://www.enworld.org/showpost.php?p=2113914&postcount=175, now that's straw menish.

Overall, I'm with you Tet, that arguing how to handle this with a book that isn't even out yet is silly. But dragon fights are STILL cool.

 

[tetsujin28]

Tet,

Nah. This is a silly arguement but at least the merits are decent. Now the Eberron smiting on THIS thread http://www.enworld.org/showpost.php?p=2113914&postcount=175, now that's straw menish.

Boy, are you right! But Nisarg's involved, isn't he?

Overall, I'm with you Tet, that arguing how to handle this with a book that isn't even out yet is silly. But dragon fights are STILL cool.

Dragon fights ARE cool

 

[Nightfall]

Tet,


Yep. So it's not unexpected. I've already stated my opinions on Eberron. (Not bad, not for me.) (Though I do like Ironborn more than Warforged. Probably because the former is more verstile than then latter.)

And yes, Dragon fights are ALWAYS cool, especially when they are planned to the minute detail hilt.

 

[elforcelf]

Mike,please tell me how your book can help my epic story I am D.M.ing. I want to be sold on it. elforcelf.

 

[Staffan]

However, if the players don't think to smelt the silver coins they found into crude blades,

This reminds me of a book I read where the hero melted down his silver coins into arrowheads in order to go werewolf-hunting. Then he found out the hard way why none of the surrounding countries would accept silver currency from the country he was in... not much actual silver in it

 

[JoeGKushner]

Mike,please tell me how your book can help my epic story I am D.M.ing. I want to be sold on it. elforcelf.

Why do you need to be sold on this as it comes out in August? Are you holding your campaign up until then?

I'm in the "sounds interesting and looking forward to seeing it" camp. Unless they start providing a lot of advanced materials and previews, or like Dragon did with the Expanded Psionics Handbook, previews that are exclusive to the area, I'm not holding my breath.

 

[Felon]

This whole dragon argument has got to be one of the biggest straw men, ever.

I agree, although if you look at the actual comments made, you should notice the discussion has less to do with a specific scenario than with non-magical tactics for dealing traditional D&D challenges.

This reminds me of a book I read where the hero melted down his silver coins into arrowheads in order to go werewolf-hunting. Then he found out the hard way why none of the surrounding countries would accept silver currency from the country he was in... not much actual silver in it

Yeah, Harlan Ellison wrote a similar one-page story for a comic book back in the early 80's.