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Iron Lore: Malhavoc's Surprise?

"Iron Lore"?

Why the title? Can you share any of the thoughts behind that choice?

(Unless, of course, you plan to make this the subject of a future design diary.)

Ozmar the Curious
 

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Janx said:
I think Mike missed the point (or a point) the original question was based on.

SNIP

I'm speaking from a single game perspective, and not acknowledging the fact that in the long term, the Druid would be hosed, due to not getting bigger magic items to beef him up.

I think people are interested in simple cross-over capability, for a one-shot say. You'd want to keep D&D magic items out of the hands of the IL PCs, and such.

It's kind of a litmus test on how compatible IL is with D&D.

Thanks,
Janx

He may have missed the point again...from what he has written, it seems like if you had an IL charecter with IL wealth, and a 3.5 charecter with 3.5 wealth--they would be comporable, and you should be able to mix them, maybe he will chime in again on this.
 

Ozmar said:
Why the title? Can you share any of the thoughts behind that choice?

(Unless, of course, you plan to make this the subject of a future design diary.)

I am *terrible* with titles. The original title sounded too much like a setting (which, remember, the book doesn't really emphasize). I tried coming up with others, but largely failed. Someone suggested we put Iron in the title, and the title just sort of tumbled out from there.

Really, the choice came down to "We need a title. Make one up. NOW." Like I said, I'm terrible with titles. I didn't want it to be cutesy or weird, and Iron Lore seemed simple and easy enough to remember.
 

TerraDave said:
He may have missed the point again...from what he has written, it seems like if you had an IL charecter with IL wealth, and a 3.5 charecter with 3.5 wealth--they would be comporable, and you should be able to mix them, maybe he will chime in again on this.

Oh, OK. Sorry about being dense. Yes, if you used a straight PHB druid (with his magic items) with a straight IL character (without magic items), they should mix fine.
 

mearls said:
I am *terrible* with titles. The original title sounded too much like a setting (which, remember, the book doesn't really emphasize). I tried coming up with others, but largely failed. Someone suggested we put Iron in the title, and the title just sort of tumbled out from there.

Really, the choice came down to "We need a title. Make one up. NOW." Like I said, I'm terrible with titles. I didn't want it to be cutesy or weird, and Iron Lore seemed simple and easy enough to remember.

I have the same problem with NPC names.

I guess that works. I was thinking there might be some deep thought or meaning behind the choice. But simple and easy to remember is also good. :)

Can't wait!
Ozmar the Eager Fan
 

Will you be using class defense progression ala D20 Modern?

Will there be any magical items? Like ancient artifacts but relatively low powered?
 

mearls said:
Oh, OK. Sorry about being dense. Yes, if you used a straight PHB druid (with his magic items) with a straight IL character (without magic items), they should mix fine.

As a follow up on this, you could have a campaign where some of the charecters belong to orders (i.e. the Druids) that give them items, or items only work for the D&D charecters. Or conversely, if someone wanted to play an IL charecter in a D&D game, then magic wouldn't work for them (and treasure should be adjusted accordingly)

Just as long as everyone knows upfront that this is balanced
 

Mike, can you tell us the page-length of this book? Is it at least longer than Iron Might? Of course, i could probably patiently wait 24 hours and find out officially from malhavoc, but i was curious. I really like the way this system sounds. I might try to incorporate some of these elements into my Midnight campaign. You could theoretically make a character more powerful if you took away their Hero Path and introduced IL as a replacement. Maybe?
 

mearls said:
Really, the choice came down to "We need a title. Make one up. NOW." Like I said, I'm terrible with titles. I didn't want it to be cutesy or weird, and Iron Lore seemed simple and easy enough to remember.

So there might be some validity in the rumor that the project was originally titled, "Tickle Me Roughly With the Angry Feathers of Your Love?"

I definitely prefer your final choice.
 

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