Is Bardic Knowledge = to a feat ?

Sqwonk

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Without worring about stepping on the Bard's schtick - no one ini my group plays Bard's anyway.

Is the Bardic Knowledge ability about equal to a feat?

I was thinking about playing a sort of a blend of Indiana Jones and Laura Kroft.

Basically a rogue - with the Educated feat, a decent INT score and the
"Bardic Knowlege feat". So he woudl be good at traps and knowing stuff.
 

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Sqwonk said:
Without worring about stepping on the Bard's schtick - no one ini my group plays Bard's anyway.

Is the Bardic Knowledge ability about equal to a feat?

I was thinking about playing a sort of a blend of Indiana Jones and Laura Kroft.

Basically a rogue - with the Educated feat, a decent INT score and the
"Bardic Knowlege feat". So he woudl be good at traps and knowing stuff.

No, but I'd let you trade out Evasion for it.
 

Sqwonk said:
Is the Bardic Knowledge ability about equal to a feat?

I was thinking about playing a sort of a blend of Indiana Jones and Laura Kroft.

1. No, its a class ability that can't be gained through any other method, nor should it be.

2. Bardic Knowledge is a bad way to model those people. BK is the completely random knowledge that you pick up from being social or listening to too many songs. The knowledge those characters had is intensly detailed info gained through years of study in different subjects, and would be modeled by many ranks in different Knowledge skills.

Indiana Jones would be the one to tell you that the Scots created the game of golf, what materials they made the clubs from, and who was king at the time, and what treasure he accumulated. Gurney Halleck would be the one to tell you that a golf ball has 336 dimples.
 

I would encourage you to consider playing an Akashic class, from Monte Cook's Arcana Evolved, instead of cobbling together some classes and feats and abilities elsewhere. The Akashic has Indiana Jones listed as one of the archetypes for it, with good reason.

You can check out the Akashic for free online here:

http://www.ptolus.com/cgi-bin/page.cgi?mpress_MCAE_Akashic

I've played one, and they are a lot of fun. And they mix well with regular PHB base classes without any changes (though you will need the text to a couple of unique AE spells, which shouldn't be too difficult to come by).
 

Yeah, as a class feature it's OK, and very cheese limiting. As a feat...well...

Consider that bardic knowledge works off of class level in the class that granted BK. How would you do that with a feat? Total character levels? The feat is already better than the class ability.

But, yeah, as Mistwell says, there are several other classes that grant this ability, (I had a cloistered cleric with it) but they are usually going to be limited by the class level problem I mentioned above. Only really good if you stick to that class.
 



Mistwell said:
I would encourage you to consider playing an Akashic class, from Monte Cook's Arcana Evolved, instead of cobbling together some classes and feats and abilities elsewhere. The Akashic has Indiana Jones listed as one of the archetypes for it, with good reason.

You can check out the Akashic for free online here:

http://www.ptolus.com/cgi-bin/page.cgi?mpress_MCAE_Akashic

I've played one, and they are a lot of fun. And they mix well with regular PHB base classes without any changes (though you will need the text to a couple of unique AE spells, which shouldn't be too difficult to come by).

The Akashic class is pretty neat, but a little "psionicy" for the campaign world.
 


Deset Gled said:
Indiana Jones would be the one to tell you that the Scots created the game of golf, what materials they made the clubs from, and who was king at the time, and what treasure he accumulated. Gurney Halleck would be the one to tell you that a golf ball has 336 dimples.

Except, of course, that the game mechanics don't make this distinction.

-Stuart
 

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