Pathfinder 2E Is it time for a new Pathfinder Setting?

[dave2008]

I do not think a new setting from Paizo would be particularly helpful. It would not encourage me to make the move to the new edition. They need to get their mojo back with their AP design most importantly. If new campaigns of similar quality to, for example, Curse of the Crimson Throne were coming out for PF2, I'd find it much harder to ignore. All the second edition APs have left me entirely indifferent to date.

Well, with a new setting would come new APs - maybe that would also kickstart some better APs

 

[Green Onceler]

Well, with a new setting would come new APs - maybe that would also kickstart some better APs

That's true, but I guess I do not have a lot of faith in the company to put out particularly interesting content atm, settings included. And I say this as a huge fan of Paizo, historically speaking.

 

[payn]

Well, with a new setting would come new APs - maybe that would also kickstart some better APs

You'd think that, but part of the reason Paizo sticks to Golarion is they dont have the resources to support multiple settings, let alone multiple AP lines.

That's true, but I guess I do not have a lot of faith in the company to put out particularly interesting content atm, settings included. And I say this as a huge fan of Paizo, historically speaking.

I didnt like how PF2 shaped up, so I cancelled my AP sub and havent paid attention since. I'm not liking the sound of this...

 

[Justice and Rule]

That's true, but I guess I do not have a lot of faith in the company to put out particularly interesting content atm, settings included. And I say this as a huge fan of Paizo, historically speaking.

I dunno, Strength of Thousands looks interesting.

 

[Retreater]

I dunno, Strength of Thousands looks interesting.

I'm excited about Abomination Vaults, but I hope in general they continue making shorter adventure paths so they can reach more playstyles and interests.

 

[dave2008]

You'd think that, but part of the reason Paizo sticks to Golarion is they dont have the resources to support multiple settings, let alone multiple AP lines.

There team is significantly larger than the D&D team at WotC, so it doesn't seem like it would be impossible.

 

[payn]

There team is significantly larger than the D&D team at WotC, so it doesn't seem like it would be impossible.

There is way more to it than that. Look, Lisa and team are pretty damn good at what they do. If they could pop out another setting and support the way it deserves, they would be doing it.

 

[dave2008]

There is way more to it than that. Look, Lisa and team are pretty damn good at what they do. If they could pop out another setting and support the way it deserves, they would be doing it.

Possibly. It is also possible that they could do another setting, but don't think it makes financial sense. They could also be wrong about what constitutes "support the way it deserves." Or they could mistaken and are wasting resources on more bestiaries or feat design when I new setting when be much more financially and creatively lucrative. Or the could be doing everything perfectly. We don't know and my question isn't really about that.

My real questions is: de we (the fans) want more settings for PF2e?

PS - Lisa isn't part of team anymore is she? I thought she stepped down.

 

[payn]

As a fan then, I'd ask what Golarion doesn't have? As nice as an all pirate, undead, dragon, psionic, etc setting would be, I dont think any system but D&D can do that.

Looking at my Inner Sea guide I'm wondering if they got around to that other continent folks always talked about?

 

[Justice and Rule]

As a fan then, I'd ask what Golarion doesn't have? As nice as an all pirate, undead, dragon, psionic, etc setting would be, I dont think any system but D&D can do that.

Looking at my Inner Sea guide I'm wondering if they got around to that other continent folks always talked about?

Uh, they can at least give me a Galt sourcebook first.

 

[teitan]

Ah hell, I always forget Ravnica. I shouldn't have forgotten Wildemount, either.

Right? best 5e book in my opinion

 

[teitan]

I hope not because I just started getting into Golarion with the Lost Omens books and like that it literally has everything without feeling like a kitchen sink setting or trying to be weird or "different". The gimmick is the quality. I don't like that they are thin hardcovers when the first two and the second two could have been two $50 hardcovers but them's the breaks and with Amazon it amounts to $50 anyway. Our FLGS doesn't carry Pathfinder, being a miniatures, Magic & second hand Video Game store they just have the core book and bestiary. ALso have a Books A Million membership and have gotten some of them super, duper cheap.

 

[MaskedGuy]

Paizo's core philosophy seems to be really focused on belief that one of reasons TSR went bankrupt was that they competed with themselves with different settings.

So I don't really seem them introducing completely new setting and they don't really need to either since Golarion is kitchen sink "you can run any sort of game" setting. Only thing they really need to do is to introduce new country on another continent and they add another genre to the mix.

 

[willrali]

I'm excited about Abomination Vaults, but I hope in general they continue making shorter adventure paths so they can reach more playstyles and interests.

Playing through Abomination Vaults right now. It's very good.

 

[TiwazTyrsfist]

I wouldn't want a fully separate additional setting for Pathfinder (as Greyhawk, Forgotten Realms, and Eberron are Separate), but I WOULD enjoy more regional settings like they're doing with Mwangi Expanse, and even a more thorough and full setting guide for some of the other planets that have made appearances in PF1.

Honestly, I REALLY REALLY wish that PF2 and Starfinder were fully compatible systems. But oh well.

 

[Retreater]

Playing through Abomination Vaults right now. It's very good.

I'm hand crafting it into Roll20 as an exercise in trying to learn the system and challenge myself. Looks like a good one though I don't know when I'd realistically get a chance to run it.
That's me. Just doing a bunch of unnecessary prep. Haha

 

[Thomas Shey]

The one issue I can see is the mechanical support come across as sub-standard compared to Golarian because of all the support for various cultural structures in both Backgrounds and Archetypes, unless they did some considerable heavy lifting there.

 

[Staffan]

So is FR, but some people still want something different.

FR is significantly more... I guess "coherent" is as good a word as any. Forgotten Realms has a core region that's pretty much "standard D&D", basically the north-west corner of Faerûn (the Vast, Cormyr, Sembia, the Dalelands, the Moonsea, the Dragon Coast, and the Sword Coast (previously known as the Western Heartlands and the Savage North)). Beyond that, you have some outlying regions that do different things, like Mulhorand. But each country in Golarion is basically its own little sub-genre — gothic horror in Ustalav, vikings in the Land of the Linnorm Kings, wild eternal revolution in Galt, and so on. That's pretty different from the Forgotten Realms.

I don't think Golarion is Paizo's equivalent of the Forgotten Realms. It's their equivalent of Mystara.

 

[Zardnaar]

FR is significantly more... I guess "coherent" is as good a word as any. Forgotten Realms has a core region that's pretty much "standard D&D", basically the north-west corner of Faerûn (the Vast, Cormyr, Sembia, the Dalelands, the Moonsea, the Dragon Coast, and the Sword Coast (previously known as the Western Heartlands and the Savage North)). Beyond that, you have some outlying regions that do different things, like Mulhorand. But each country in Golarion is basically its own little sub-genre — gothic horror in Ustalav, vikings in the Land of the Linnorm Kings, wild eternal revolution in Galt, and so on. That's pretty different from the Forgotten Realms.

I don't think Golarion is Paizo's equivalent of the Forgotten Realms. It's their equivalent of Mystara.

Goodwayof putting it.

 

[Aldarc]

FR is significantly more... I guess "coherent" is as good a word as any. Forgotten Realms has a core region that's pretty much "standard D&D", basically the north-west corner of Faerûn (the Vast, Cormyr, Sembia, the Dalelands, the Moonsea, the Dragon Coast, and the Sword Coast (previously known as the Western Heartlands and the Savage North)). Beyond that, you have some outlying regions that do different things, like Mulhorand. But each country in Golarion is basically its own little sub-genre — gothic horror in Ustalav, vikings in the Land of the Linnorm Kings, wild eternal revolution in Galt, and so on. That's pretty different from the Forgotten Realms.

I don't think Golarion is Paizo's equivalent of the Forgotten Realms. It's their equivalent of Mystara.

I think that this cohesion has been added as part of Pathfinder 2, particularly the Lost Omens Guide. So much like FR, Golarion has been thematically grouped into regions: e.g., Saga Lands, Eye of Dread, Old Cheliax, Shining Kingdoms, Broken Lands, etc.