Urriak Uruk
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Just discovered this thread. All I'll say is... not really able to know until we see the 5.5 (or whatever you want to call it) update.
right... so if I buy Curse of strahd and run it on 2e or go buy tales of the spell jammer and run it in 4e, or I buy forge of fire and run it in 5e... there is still a split from 2e 3e 4e and 5e players
but again how little has to change (and again I already said that is what I think they will try for) to make that possible? how many issues would they have to not fix?
as it is now we already have alot of changes causing splits
I'm not missing any point. And yes, we are the audience. Every one on this site, plus every other site, plus everyone who isn't on a site is the audience. They are trying to sell books to everyone who plays D&D. We are just a very small part of the audience.You are missing my point then. We aren’t the audience. We are a minority. The customer base is different now, continued sales success to this different audience indicates that the game is going to continue in this direction whether we like it or not. I like 5e though so it’s neither here nor there but the current customer base likes the game and where it is going. You are a minority. I have my issues with it but can live with it like I have every version of the game.
I don't see any reason to think that the "new audience" is some monolithic consumer blob that will just keep buying whatever WotC puts out. Like all gamers I'm sure they all have their favorite parts of D&D, but they may not be fully aware of what those parts are if they don't have experience with other editions/games.You are missing my point then. We aren’t the audience. We are a minority. The customer base is different now, continued sales success to this different audience indicates that the game is going to continue in this direction whether we like it or not. I like 5e though so it’s neither here nor there but the current customer base likes the game and where it is going. You are a minority. I have my issues with it but can live with it like I have every version of the game.
Historically it has been though. Plus D&D isn’t the 900 lbs Gorilla of the industry. It’s officially Godzilla. It’s several tons of the industry in comparison to its leading competitor in terms of brand and dollars. So yes if it has the D&D brand it will be gobbled up. People are willing to drop 400 bucks on a Tiamat or a red dragon because it says D&D on it.I don't see any reason to think that the "new audience" is some monolithic consumer blob that will just keep buying whatever WotC puts out. Like all gamers I'm sure they all have their favorite parts of D&D, but they may not be fully aware of what those parts are if they don't have experience with other editions/games.
if a 5.5e changes elements that someone liked a lot, they're likely to remain in 5e even if they only started playing a short while ago.
Yes you are and are getting emotional. Have a good day.I'm not missing any point. And yes, we are the audience. Every one on this site, plus every other site, plus everyone who isn't on a site is the audience. They are trying to sell books to everyone who plays D&D. We are just a very small part of the audience.
You also need to stop talking for "the customer base." You don't know what they all want. You are not WotC. You only know what YOU want.
ROFL Not at all emotional dude, but thanks for playing the assumption game. Have a good one.Yes you are and are getting emotional. Have a good day.
I think you might be the one in this thread who cares the most about older players.All I am saying is older players are not their concern. They are no longer the audience. How is that being missed when I said that very explicitly? With extremely plain language? We make up a very small part of the current audience. People will migrate based on compatibility, but they will migrate and eventually move on from the current edition altogether. Grognards, people who stick with older editions are a very small percentage of an audience with the one stand out being 3.5 because Hasbro misread the audience and market. Even then 4e still did numbers that every other publisher would have been salivating over because… 900 lbs gorilla. The stories of PF beating D&D come with caveats and analysis that fans weren’t looking at when they cheered the statistics. It still had a good adoption rate. Meteoric abandon rate of course.