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5E Is the new setting Icewind Dale?

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Prakriti

Hi, I'm a Mindflayer, but don't let that worry you
The early previews of Baldur's Gate 3 have been quite positive; I wouldn't be surprised if there are already plans for an Icewind Dale game (it's the next best known electronic property).
I would think that Neverwinter Nights or Planescape: Torment had IWD beat, but maybe you're right.
 

Urriak Uruk

Debate fuels my Fire
Yeah, that looks like Icewind Dale. Definitely not what I wanted, but I'm sure they'll write something good.

Weirdly, a few D&D YouTubers on lore have released videos recently with the Crystal Shard (an item closely tied to Icewind) as the subject. Could be a coincidence, but maybe they hear stuff in the pipeline.

There are still some loose end villains from the Crystal Shard plotline. Crenshinibon, the Crystal Shard, was destroyed, but the 7 liches who were part of it were released. The remnants of the shard also merged with a red dragon and mind flayer to form the Ghost King, some strange Shadowfel entity.

Could be entirely separate from those and entirely new, or maybe revisit those threads.
 


Parmandur

Legend
I would think that Neverwinter Nights or Planescape: Torment had IWD beat, but maybe you're right.
I genuinely wasn't sure about the, so Ives done some digging:

  • for Planescape, "In 2017, Brian Fargo estimated the game's lifetime retail sales as roughly 400,000 units" worldwideper Wikipedia, which was considered fairly disappointing even if it is a cult classic.
  • for Neverwinter Nights, "Discounting its expansions, the original Neverwinter Nights ultimately sold 2.2 million copies, as of 2007"
  • for Icewind Dale, it had sold 580,000 by 2006 for just the USA, and was in 2006 ranked the 74th best selling PC game of all time. The expansion pack and sequel did well, too.
  • for Baldur's Gate, the first game sold $2.2 million by 2003

So, BG is the top dog, NN is number 2, and Icewind Dale was the third bear selling of that style of game.
 

Parmandur

Legend
Yeah, that looks like Icewind Dale. Definitely not what I wanted, but I'm sure they'll write something good.

Weirdly, a few D&D YouTubers on lore have released videos recently with the Crystal Shard (an item closely tied to Icewind) as the subject. Could be a coincidence, but maybe they hear stuff in the pipeline.

There are still some loose end villains from the Crystal Shard plotline. Crenshinibon, the Crystal Shard, was destroyed, but the 7 liches who were part of it were released. The remnants of the shard also merged with a red dragon and mind flayer to form the Ghost King, some strange Shadowfel entity.

Could be entirely separate from those and entirely new, or maybe revisit those threads.
Over the years, I have noted that there is a slight uptick in social media activity on a subject WotC is working on before it is announced. These products have hundreds of playtesters, and some of them blog or have YouTube channels...

There was a huge amount of chatter about Undermountain leading up to the announcer of Dragon Heist, for instance...
 


Urriak Uruk

Debate fuels my Fire
Over the years, I have noted that there is a slight uptick in social media activity on a subject WotC is working on before it is announced. These products have hundreds of playtesters, and some of them blog or have YouTube channels...

There was a huge amount of chatter about Undermountain leading up to the announcer of Dragon Heist, for instance...
This one abotu a month ago;


And this one week ago;


The latter I found especially odd, as that person doesn't normally do videos on artifacts.
 


Icewind Dale is a setting, a discrete region where fantasy stories are told. It's certainly, of course, part of the larger Forgotten Realms setting, but it is not inaccurate to refer to Icewind Dale as a setting.

It's also "new" in the sense that we have not yet visited Icewind Dale in a 5th Edition D&D gamebook.
So it was just my imagination that part of Storm King's thunder took place in Icewind Dale?
 




vincegetorix

Jewel of the North
We know from past comments a next book will have a focus on towns, their heraldry and their militia. Many thought of the Dales, but a gazetteer of the Ten-Towns (mostly a reprint ++ of the stuff from LotCS) with a cool campaign based around the idea of raising the Ten Towns against the forces of the Shadow King or some other threats would be cool (with rules for mass combat). Or maybe a compilation of old adventures based in a cold or mountain setting, like Saltmarsh did for coastal adventures.
 

Mercurius

Legend
They are not teasing Theros, as it has already been announced. Whatever they reveal in early June will be a new product.
Well, this is still taking place well before Theros is in people's hands, and at least Perkins game at the event is going to be set in Theros...so that maaaay be what is meant....
Well, I see three possibilities:

  1. Theros - a new setting, just not a new announcement. This is the most logical, considering the live-stream is about a month before release, but a bit deceptive.
  2. Magic/other - an actually new setting, and a bit of a surprise considering that the last two products were new settings. Based on my cursory knowledge of Magic, I would guess Innistrad (Perkins comment) or Zendikar (different enough, something new), or possibly Ixalan or Kaladesh (non-Euro), maybe Dominaria (the classic Magic setting, afaiu).
  3. Icewind Dale - not a new setting at all. This would be quite a disappointment for both many FR fans--more North--and those hoping for either classic or new settings. As I said, this would be a bit of a PR blunder.
 

Prakriti

Hi, I'm a Mindflayer, but don't let that worry you
It's about 4-5 paragraphs, it's an area you can visit, but isn't super detailed. About as much as Waterdeep in Hoard of the Dragon Queen.
Actually, Bryn Shander gets a good 3 or 4 pages devoted to it, complete with a map. It's one of the four towns that the adventure can begin in (or advance to, if you are using the level 1-5 pre-adventure).
 


Parmandur

Legend
Well, I see three possibilities:

  1. Theros - a new setting, just not a new announcement. This is the most logical, considering the live-stream is about a month before release, but a bit deceptive.
  2. Magic/other - an actually new setting, and a bit of a surprise considering that the last two products were new settings. Based on my cursory knowledge of Magic, I would guess Innistrad (Perkins comment) or Zendikar (different enough, something new), or possibly Ixalan or Kaladesh (non-Euro), maybe Dominaria (the classic Magic setting, afaiu).
  3. Icewind Dale - not a new setting at all. This would be quite a disappointment for both many FR fans--more North--and those hoping for either classic or new settings. As I said, this would be a bit of a PR blunder.
Well, if they did another Magic setting this year, Zendikar would be it, since the Zendikar card block is coming in Q4. I don't think that's what we'll get, but I wouldn't put it past WotC either, and they are clearly not bound by some abstract idea of balance.
 

Parmandur

Legend
Actually, Bryn Shander gets a good 3 or 4 pages devoted to it, complete with a map. It's one of the four towns that the adventure can begin in (or advance to, if you are using the level 1-5 pre-adventure).
Oh, durr-hurr, so it is: but still, not exactly a huge deep dive.
 


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