Is there errata for the Nightmare spell PHB p.232

[Crothian]

I just read the whole thread and there seems to be only one solution. Please follow along at home.

Step 1: Have Character Sheet in front of you with your dice. These are all very important especially the d20 that has been failing you when you roll your will saves.

Step 2: Rip Character sheet up in confeti like pieces. Sprinkly it over your dice.

Step 3: Get lighterfluid and douse dice and confeti character sheet.

Step 4: Lite and try not to burn the house down.

Step 5: Gather up asses and melted plastic.

Step 6: Buy new dice and make up new character (might have this guy take the feat Iron Will).

Step 7: Show the remains of the last character sheet and dice to the new character sheet and new dice. Keep them seperated, but near each other. You don't want to contaminadte the new stuff, but they have to learn the lessons of the old group.

Step 8: Log onto En World's Message Board. Read the responses you are getting to this thread. The repsonses are actually quite good and intelligent.

The spell is niether Uber, broken, or anything else. Perhpas your DM is abusing the spell by not allowing you to get past it. Or perhaps you are the group of eight years old you refered to earlier.

 

[IceBear]

It's fine. Seriously, as soon as I got nailed with a nightmare spell I'd go an sleep at a Hallowed site. I'd then work on finding out who was responsible and getting a Ring of Protection from Evil or something similar to stop it and then kill the bastard.

Seriously, it's only the loss of a couple nights of sleep before you should be able to overcome it.

The spell is not broken.

IceBear

 

[JacktheRabbit]

Would a ring of protection from evil actually protect you from this spell?

It's fine. Seriously, as soon as I got nailed with a nightmare spell I'd go an sleep at a Hallowed site. I'd then work on finding out who was responsible and getting a Ring of Protection from Evil or something similar to stop it and then kill the bastard.

Seriously, it's only the loss of a couple nights of sleep before you should be able to overcome it.

The spell is not broken.

IceBear

 

[Piratecat]

Would a ring of protection from evil actually protect you from this spell?

I don't know. I do know that you could perhaps be a lot less rude, or maybe go and take a couple of deep breaths before sitting down at your keyboard. I was trying to be neither "stupid" nor "smartass" when I opined that the spell wasn't broken; at most, I was trying to be gently humorous, but it's clear you didn't interpret it that way. Nevertheless, if you post looking for opinions or help, it's good manners to be a lot less insulting than you were.

I think people here did a pretty good job of elucidating the reasons that I don't think the spell is broken. You're welcome to disagree. *shrug*

 

[IceBear]

Actually, you're probably right. I misremembered Protection from Evil's blocking mental control as blocking mental attacks. After rereading it, I don't think it would block nightmare.

Thus, we fall back to a Ring of Sustenance or Rope Trick.
You just need one night of sleep then get your spells and every night cast Rope Trick before going to sleep.

No nightmares.

IceBear

 

[JacktheRabbit]

Your right and I do apologise to you and everyone else here on this thread. Several things have done their best to irritate me and my fiance driving off by accident with my car keys (which I discovered just a little while ago) didnt help.

Shouldn't have taken it out on any of you guys.

So how do you protect from this spell on a long term basis?

Would an Amulet of Nondetection make you immune? I am sure Mind Blank would work but I doubt I have the spare gold around to afford that one long term.

I don't know. I do know that you could perhaps be a lot less rude, or maybe go and take a couple of deep breaths before sitting down at your keyboard. I was trying to be neither "stupid" nor "smartass" when I opined that the spell wasn't broken; at most, I was trying to be gently humorous, but it's clear you didn't interpret it that way. Nevertheless, if you post looking for opinions or help, it's good manners to be a lot less insulting than you were.

I think people here did a pretty good job of elucidating the reasons that I don't think the spell is broken. You're welcome to disagree. *shrug*

 

[JacktheRabbit]

Great so I am sleeling inside a ropetrick inside the tower I just bought and furnished. That would be great irony.

The real danger is that this is not a nightmare spell but a Nighthag invading our dreams. CR wise we are no match for a Nighthag but that hasnt stopped our DM before.

Scratch that. I was remembering the NightHag nightmare ability wrong.

Actually, you're probably right. I misremembered Protection from Evil's blocking mental control as blocking mental attacks. After rereading it, I don't think it would block nightmare.

Thus, we fall back to a Ring of Sustenance or Rope Trick.
You just need one night of sleep then get your spells and every night cast Rope Trick before going to sleep.

No nightmares.

IceBear

 

[IceBear]

I don't think nondetection would work. It just prevents you from being found via divination spells, and nightmare isn't a divination spell. It would be a good tactic to prevent someone from finding you and learn enough about you to cast nightmare on you, but now that they've started, it's too late.

I think perhaps Rope Trick would be the best answer.

IceBear

 

[IceBear]

Great so I am sleeling inside a ropetrick inside the tower I just bought and furnished. That would be great irony.

The real danger is that this is not a nightmare spell but a Nighthag invading our dreams. CR wise we are no match for a Nighthag but that hasnt stopped our DM before.

Yes, it's ironic. I wonder if a thin lining of lead about your room would block the spell. I'd probably allow lead to block it.

Again, if someone has resorted to casting nightmare on you then you need to be proactive. Just waiting around isn't going to help.

All the same, I'd suspect that once you countered it the lich would give up. I mean, after three weeks of not being able to cast it on you, it's time to move on to a new trick

IceBear

 

[Pielorinho]

Here's a real plan. It requires friends.

Your friends prepare a detect thoughts (if you have a mean DM), a scry, a detect evil, and a teleport.

They should detect thoughts on you as you fall asleep. When the nightmare begins, they should cast dispel evil on you.

They should then immediately scry on the person sending nightmares to you -- that'd probably have a DC of 15 or 20 (someone whom you've never met, or someone whom you have secondhand information about). Have guidance prepared, and take 10 on the scry check, and have enough ranks that you can easily achieve the DC20.

The person who scries on the lich should then cast teleport on your whole group, directing you all to the lich's lair. Even with the 1 hour casting time on scry, it should still give you awhile to dispense with the stunned lich. Have a couple backup teleportation scrolls, if you can -- there's a 25% chance you won't show up on target.

First, of course, cast augury . "Dear God: is this a good idea?"

Daniel