Is this a legal method of converting gp to xp

Luis Figoo

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As a current player in my group, a spiked chain fighter, i am thinking of using my current gps to buy horses. I will then take them out arena style one by one. I'm also looking to buy wild horses as these should be cheaper (more xp per gp). Being about 2HD each and as a fighter capable of soloing them, the idea should net quite a bit of xp.

If it works it'll be scaled up in HD to whatever i can buy. Discounting the RP disadvantages (druids paying visits, etc), is there any rules probem with this?
 

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Ask yourself this. Does your campaign feature:
  • Fighters with Whirlwind Attack and Great Cleave carrying around buckets of snails, scattering the snails in the middle of a fight, and then using WWA/GC to land N hits on a bad guy?
  • Paladins using the fact that lances are size M weapons to dual-wield them on horseback?
  • Wizards using telekinesis to animate a couple hundred pebbles and hurling them at a monster for Nd6 points of damage?

If the answer to all of these is yes, go right ahead. Otherwise, the horses are presenting no significant challenge to you, and you get no XP for this stunt of yours.
 

Otherwise, the horses are presenting no significant challenge to you, and you get no XP for this stunt of yours.

There was a DragonMirth cartoon once, that featured Minotaur-in-a-Box (TM). There was a slot on the box labelled "Insert sword for 200 XP".

The caption was a PC pointing out "Kinda takes the fun out of it, doesn't it?"

-Hyp.
 

I've heard of the "Use-Gate-To-Summon-A-Fiend-And-Slay-Him" method, but "Buy-Horses-And-Butcher-Them" is new to me.

Hm... a thought occurs: if you get XP for slaying horses and other cattle, wouldn't all butchers in the World be Epic Level by now?
 

Why are the horses considered no significant challenge, would a randomly encountered horse net xp? If so what is the difference?

As for the WWC/GC, Telekinesis tricks, those can be easily house rules with no roll down effects. If you say the horses are no significant challenge then you must present house rules that clearly state unde what conditions are they considered significant challenges else the CR rules become a mess

As for butchers being epic, doesn't work. At best you can hit about 9th level with horses. you get 0 xp for 8 CRs below you.
 
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Well, now we know how to recognize a butcher: the single expert 9 in town :D.

Now, honestly: why don't you spend the money for healing potions, take a nice hike into a mountain and obliterate a couple of orc tribes? You would get xp (with less expenditure of gp, as potions are more cheap than horses), you woulnd't kill some innocent being (original sin is true for orcs ;) ), you would have a better time than that mindless slaughtering of horses (unless you're a real horse hater), AND noone would think of you as barking mad....
 

Actually that does make a good point about butchers being pretty high level compared to everyone else.

Of course they'll have to face off the animal they are trying to kill in combat. A single pig would be pretty tough, even fatal for a novice butcher but with a few pigs under his belt, he could move up to cows :D.

My DM's no dummy of course, he'll probably restrict the number of horses on sale and such (pretty much the same things i would do when i DM).

Still when you remember Leadership, using horses coud raise your followers levels. Since the horses are dead thus considered expended, that would free up your assets by level in the DMG would that not?

So as i gain levels, my assets by level increase which in turn allows me to buy a greater number of horses, which allows me to gain levels faster. Hmm, a spiral, interesting
 

Luis Figoo said:
Why are the horses considered no significant challenge, would a randomly encountered horse net xp? If so what is the difference?

I suppose if the randomly encountered horse decided to attack you, then you might get XP for it. Wandering around killing the livestock isn't exactly the stuff of which warriors are made.

The point here is that there has to be a challange, not just an encounter with a creature of a certain CR. Killing things that have no chance of killing you isn't a challenge.

For the same reason, I don't award full XP for coup-de-grace kills, arena fights where NPC healers are ready to step in, etc.

As for butchers being epic, doesn't work. At best you can hit about 9th level with horses. you get 0 xp for 8 CRs below you.

Once horses are no longer a challenge, there are always dire horses, legendary horses, half-fiend horses and half-dragon horses.
 

Luis Figoo said:
Why are the horses considered no significant challenge, would a randomly encountered horse net xp? If so what is the difference?

When was the last time you had a random encounter with a horse?

Now SHEEP, I can understand. Those are tricky beasts. Why, you gotta show them who's boss. Get them down and... hmm. Maybe I'd better stop here.

As for the WWC/GC, Telekinesis tricks, those can be easily house rules with no roll down effects. If you say the horses are no significant challenge then you must present house rules that clearly state unde what conditions are they considered significant challenges else the CR rules become a mess

House Rule #1: stupid players get targeted with dice.


Hong "preferably d4s" Ooi
 

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