Is this character too pwerful?

[S'mon]

Ya think? If you made the pitch that you just made to me to be allowed into my campaign, not only would I laugh in your face but I'd tell you never to waste my time again.

Well, I'd just tell him "New PCs only, and you roll them in front of me or take PB."

 

[S'mon]

I have no idea what the other players have, The DM was to busy to tell me, he just said bring a average 7th level character the only one I have is the Paladin, from a previous campaign. So when a DM tells you to bring in a character, you bring it in, if he dosent like it you make something else, simple. I just didnt have any idea if this character would be over powered as Ive only played in 3 groups over 15 years, so I was trying to get a feel for what everyone else thought a 7th level character should be.

Well, it's not an 'average' 7th level character - to most people that'd be a 28 or 32 point buy PC with the standard DMG wealth for his level.

 

[Bront]

yea, he's got great stats, but you took Endurance, Diehard, and Improved Overrun. I think those more than compensate for his good stats. curious, how is he proficent with the B. Sword? you took w focus, but not Exotic Weapon (B. Sword). Besides if the average was at 7th and you were comming in at 6th then he is barely keeping up.

Used 2 handed, it's a martial weapon, just like the Dwarven Waraxe. The exotic feat lets you use it 1 handed.

 

[Ballard_Alvar]

Used 2 handed, it's a martial weapon, just like the Dwarven Waraxe. The exotic feat lets you use it 1 handed.

yes, but it always sucks when compared to a greatsword/greataxe.(used two handed, of course.)

 

[Ballard_Alvar]

maybe it is called keen I dont know, the DM called it sharpness.

Nothing absolutely nothing if the DM dosent like ti hell tell me to take it off sheesh, its just a character I have, he wasnt created he wasnt fudged, its the only comperable 7th level charater I have. You guys are acting like Im trying to sneak something by. Sorry thats not the case, when a DM tells me bring in a 7th level character I get what I have, if he dosent like it I dont play it.

And why does every one think I have ads in my posts? Ive gone back 6 times theres no ads Im not putting ads in. Are there ads Im just not seeing and some one did something to my account? this is the first Ive heard of this.

Although D&D is much about stats and class, the truth is that what matters more is wealth.
Compare a 15th level fighter to a 9th level fighter. In 1 on 1 combat a 15th level should always defeat a 9th level- agreed? well, if you give the 9th level his average gold (pg 135 dmg-i think) and give the 15th level that of a first level fighter. the 9th level always wins. Wealth makes a Huge difference. just another example I had a character that was continuously pounded into goo (had regeneration) by Fire Giants (1-2) at 11th level. By 14th level (with just under average wealth) in one combat killed 12 Fire Giants by himself(at any given time no more than 4-6 within attack range.
Again wealth makes a huge diference. becuase i only had maybe 30 more HP and a slightly better attack bonus. yetwas more than twice as powerful due to the equipment.

 

[hero4hire]

yes, but it always sucks when compared to a greatsword/greataxe.(used two handed, of course.)

Not if you find a magic one with the ever so rare ability of sharpness, eh?

I have had characters from certain campaigns that makes his paladin look like a wuss, I have also played in campaigns when my highest stat was a 12. I have had fun in both and thats the point of the game, yes?

Bringing in characters from other games is always problematic, but your DM should be able to determine if it's alright for HIS game.

BTW people, all of these rules are just Guidelines...I haven't been in ONE game in my 28+ years of role-playing when everything was completely "By the book"

 

[the Lorax]

You are a troll, and you are lying. The odds of the above using 3d6 no re-rolls is about 1 in 30,000,000 or so. Even if you rolled up 50,000 characters and threw away the first 49,999 I wouldn't expect those stats. And if you did that, it would be the equivalent of 49,999 rerolls. If you told me that you'd rolled those stats with 5d6 take the best 3, no rerolls, I'd still think you were a liar. Two freaking 18's and no stats below 13? Take a course in probabilities, ya troll.

That is, perhaps, unnecessarily harsh. I've watched some pretty amazing rolls over the years. I remember one player who could consistantly roll characters with multiple 17+ stats on 4d6 drop the low, in front of the whole group, with community dice. I also remember rolling up a (supposedly) sub-adventurer level NPC for a game that I was running, I thought I'd roll 3d6, straight. I ended up rolling S16, I16, W16, D16, Cn16, Ch18. This isn't a matter of the player telling me that he rolled something truely amazing, it wasn't even for a player, it was for a 0-level human, rolled by me while DMing.

Would I as a DM allow this character?
Even with what I have seen, I have a hard time believing the rolls myself. Even if the rolls were fairly generated, they may be cause for some balance issues in the game. If all the other 7th level characters in the game have stats equivilent to something similar to a 28-32 point stat build, this character is going to be SIGNIFIGANTLY more powerful than they are. Also, the characters gear is pretty out of wack for a 6th level character, even if I ignore the mysterious "Sharpness" ability (which seems to have been ment to be "Keen" instead).

I do hope that this character is not being brought into new group of players, otherwise someone is about to make a bad first impression.

 

[Ballard_Alvar]

Not if you find a magic one with the ever so rare ability of sharpness, eh?

I have had characters from certain campaigns that makes his paladin look like a wuss, I have also played in campaigns when my highest stat was a 12. I have had fun in both and thats the point of the game, yes?

Bringing in characters from other games is always problematic, but your DM should be able to determine if it's alright for HIS game.

BTW people, all of these rules are just Guidelines...I haven't been in ONE game in my 28+ years of role-playing when everything was completely "By the book"

yea, that's true. when your dm hands out party gifts, you don't look down his gullet, but he did take Weapon Focus(Bastard). that was a little silly(in my opinion). of course i can say the same for many of the feats, but it's not me and if your going for a themed character it p/b fits. for example the first time my roomate played D&D he played a human barbarian that weilded a spear. He had the toughness and endurance feats. poor sap.
oh well. he wasn't the first to die.

 

[Storyteller01]

I don't have a problem with stats. My players use the same method Arbiture of W. uses, and they usually top it out with a powerful race or template. The Use Magic Device doesn't bother me now that it has been explained.

I'd question the permanent Darkvision ability, but it isn't a major issue. Many creatures have similar abilities, and being as human that can see in the dark will get noticed. Your DM will have plenty of reasons, as well as methods, to counter it if he has to. Since you took a 6th level character in, I'd let it go. Think of it as a virtual +1 to your ECL.

I'd rethink the equipment, probably have you start with equipment equivalent for your level (you took a subbaticle and donated your stuff to your church, you paladin you...).


I would like to know why your posting random advertising sites. Virus we should know about?

Celebrim, chill out. The character isn't overpowered, and the rolls are possible, if not probable. I asked a new player to make a 7th level character. He presented a 1 hd critter with 6 templates! There are FAR worse methods of cheating than this, and I'm not inclined to believe he is. IMHO, your being overly harsh for a relatively minor matter.

 

[Dracomeander]

My only objection was to the amount of wealth represented by the character's equipment and the Darkvision, and that was because I thought it was a newly created character rather than a previously played one.

As for permanizing Darkvision on a Paladin, it is not impossible and can even be arranged so the Paladin pays the XP cost instead of the caster. All it requires is access to a couple of spell storing devices. The character borrows the devices with the spells Darkvision and Permanency in them from a caster of appropriate level and casts them that way. I have seen this done in play.