It's official:

[Ankh-Morpork Guard]

I'm still very fond of the Fighter/Rogue then maybe Duelist. Now, maybe the trap finding doesn't always fit in, but I really think Sneak Attack works perfectly for the Swashbuckler type. Catch the enemy off guard and then a quick thrust to a vital point.

 

[LicheHazel]

But they have grace which gives a competence bonus to reflex saves.

The Duelist and Bladesinger are PrCs are good compliments to the swashbucker especially those with high int scores.

I have players doing this sort of thing in Ravenloft, but they are using the Prestege class from the Extended Psionics Handbook : Soulknife with one of my minor tweaks to it

 

[Mouseferatu]

There's an option presented in Unearthed Arcana whereby a fighter can sacrifice his bonus feats in exchange for a rogue's sneak attack. Alternatively, a rogue can sacrifice sneak attack in exchange for a fighter's bonus feats. It seems to me that either of those options--possibly even more so the second than the first--would make for a really effective and falvorful swashbuckler-type character. Has anyone made use of either of them? How do they play out?

 

[Darklone]

There's an option presented in Unearthed Arcana whereby a fighter can sacrifice his bonus feats in exchange for a rogue's sneak attack. Alternatively, a rogue can sacrifice sneak attack in exchange for a fighter's bonus feats. It seems to me that either of those options--possibly even more so the second than the first--would make for a really effective and falvorful swashbuckler-type character. Has anyone made use of either of them? How do they play out?

Didn't use it. Ftr/Rog builds are pretty common though and very effective since you get a good mixture of hitpoints, proficiencies, feats, skillpoints... The UA variants lack at least in one of these regards.

 

[Peskara]

I always wonder why a class like the Ranger has a good Ref save and the Swashbuckler doesn´t. Grace is not enough to remedy it, IMHO.

In our campaign, the DM lets fighters choose whether to have a good fortitude save or a good reflex save, whichever fits their fighting style better.

i wish I could talk him into letting paladins choose fortitude or will

 

[Darklone]

In our campaign, the DM lets fighters choose whether to have a good fortitude save or a good reflex save, whichever fits their fighting style better.

i wish I could talk him into letting paladins choose fortitude or will

Given the paladins immunity to fear and the lethality of most Fort save spells, I'd rather keep the good Fort save as paladin.

 

[ForceUser]

I find the Unfettered class from Monte Cook's Arcana Unearthed to be a much better swashbuckler than the Swashbuckler, so that's what I use.

 

[hong]

... nah, I still prefer my martial artist.


Hong "NIH? what's that?" Ooi

 

[JoeGKushner]

I find the Unfettered class from Monte Cook's Arcana Unearthed to be a much better swashbuckler than the Swashbuckler, so that's what I use.

I second the motion. It's an excellent blend of fighter-rogue and in my opinion, shows Monte's Rolemaster days again as that system has the rogue class, which is a fighter-thief.

 

[Brother Shatterstone]

I second the motion.

I'll third it, I just started a game with this class and I really like how the character turned out. (Though I haven’t used the class inside of UA yet.)