Judges Guild Makes Statement About Goodman Controversy [Updated]

Judges Guild--the company which owns the City State of the Invincible Overlord property which Goodman Games has controversially licensed for an upcoming crowdfunding campaign--has put out a statement covering the situation, amongst other things.

Much of the lengthy statement by JG owner Bob Bledsaw II is a political monologue about keeping politics out of games while simultaneously speaking at length about Bledsaw's own political views and positions, and his criticisms of opposing viewpoints. It's not entirely clear why everybody else is expected to keep politics out of gaming while Bledsaw himself won't stop talking about them, but for those who wish to read it in full, it can be found here. [edit—the post seems to have been deleted now, but you can read it at the end of this article]

However, the update does raise some interesting facts:

• Joseph Goodman originally asked to make City State of the Invincible Overlord in 2010, but it was not until 2022 (two years after the 2020 outbursts which caused Goodman Games to cut ties with Judges Guild) that Bledsaw agreed to it.
• Goodman Games will be producing 5 years of the Dungeoneer fanzine, after which Judges Guild will take it over.
• Judges Guild has plans for a range of products over the coming years.
• The charitable donations on sales of JG products on GG's website being made after the 2020 outbursts were ended in 2022 because JG and GG agreed it was time for the Guild to make some cash.

This information, if true, stands in contradiction to Goodman Games' own statements. In February 2020, Goodman Games said:

• Goodman Games has stopped selling our previous Judges Guild products through all distribution channels.
• Judges Guild will no longer receive income from Goodman Games products now that sales of their titles have ceased.
• We have one remaining product to release, which is a collector’s edition focused on the works of Jennell Jaquays.
• After this final volume, we have no plans to release future Judges Guild titles.

It's not clear how all these statements line up, given that some contradict others. Judges Guild products are currently available on Goodman Games' website.

I did reach out to Goodman Games, but was just referred to their public statements on the subject.

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Bob Bledsaw II (Judges Guild)'s statement in full:

Hello Friends and Guild Family,
As the Guild's 50th Anniversary approaches, I wished to let you all know about plans we have set for the coming few years. Some are thru licensees and some through our own internal processes. We have good things in the works for 2026, and beyond.
Let me remind you all that I am no liar. Keep that in mind. I have always been honest with others in this industry, and my record will show my candor, generosity, and good-will toward all. Like my father, I encourage other game publishers, welcome joint ventures, and leave politics out of my business life. I consider that a part of being an American. I do not expect others to conform to my way of thinking, but the weaponization of politics to harm people, or the competition in our industry, is becoming more and more common. I find it hypocritical that persons who would cancel, or effect a boycott, against an individual would themselves support laws that would criminalize the boycott of certain countries. But there you have it; laws for thee, none for me. It will ruin our industry, as it has others.
Dave Arneson foresaw all this, and we spoke in 2008 of what would happen as more liberal johnny-come-latelies pushed into our industry. Regardless of what the woke may wish, it was an industry created largely by White, Christian, stragegists; most very active in their respective churches. Sadly, the current trends would attack or change the achievements of others; burn an industry down, rather than create their own. It is always easier to destroy something than to create it. I created the company logo at age 13, but only with my father's instigation, but I challenge you to find a more bad-ass company logo anywhere in the world.
Dave believed that once the game industry made more money than the movie industry, they would come in a wave like it was the California Gold Rush... producing small private game companies, likely producing a lot of bad games, and moving them thru their own small game stores, while touting them thru media outlets. He said it would be no different than the way they pushed poor films thru their own small theaters for decades. They would flood the market with so many distractions that honest publishers would not stand a chance against their profit margins. And, as for the big players, "they do not care about what we created, they are fine with destroying it."
Dave knew that what Gygax had done was all sold, and he advised me to never allow the Wilderlands, or the Guild IP as a whole, to be sold away to "the heartless beast," as he called it. He understood that the Guild represented what was left at the heart of it all. It created the game-module, it created the stand-up, it proved the market to TSR. But 50 years later, TSR is no more, and the industry pioneers are dying away from us, and D&D suffered a dismal 50th; due largely to leftist posturing, and everyone wishing for more of this or less of that.
The founders were all good men, family men, and people who understood humor without pearl-clutching, yet we work to include everyone at our game-table, even today. We are not out to promote a way of thinking, or an agenda. We try hard to make good products at a fair price, but the Guild must compete against publishers who use cheap Chinese labor houses. Once, Joseph Goodman came to me, having found paper like our original maps had been printed on, but I said no to it, because the paper came from China. He knows what people want, so I trust he will always make top-notch products. We just could not find it in America.
That is not always easy here. Our policy from the beginning was to produce ALL AMERICAN products, and we always have. We were literally founded on July 4th 1976, on the nation's bicentennial. I remember the day well, and watched the fireworks over the lake from Bill Owen's hilltop home. Joseph Goodman recently commented on how much he loved my father's work, and I do not doubt that sincerity, but it set wrong with me, maybe it is my age talking, but I was there! It was my work also; from the company logo, to the first map, and Tac Cards on... It was MY work also. Many of the covers, much of the layout; I was a part of the Guild Family, and that included everyone working with us. There were Whites, Blacks, Muslims, Jews, Gays, Catholics, Native Americans, South Africans, City Intellectuals, and Country Farmers, all working under the Guild banner, in-house, and in all those years, never an argument over politics or religion. THAT IS AMERICA, a mutual respect for diversity! Not at all what overshadows our industry today, and I see all that for what it is; a self-righteous power-grab.
Nevertheless we work on, and the Overlord is Invincible. As it is currently planned with Goodman Games, City State of the Invincible Overlord, our flagship, will see revisions in 5th Edition, and Dungeon Crawl Classics. Now, the Goodman folks jumped ahead of us; we were to have a planned rollout in July of this year. The Guild version, in Bob Bledsaw's JG Universal format will include materials Bob wrote but has never been used. The page count has doubled, and will likely come in 2 Volumes. We know this will make for a great product, because the same process of applying Bob's draft content to The Thieves of Badabaskor resulted in many great reviews and happy letters.
It is true that Joseph Goodman has long wished to do CSIO, and asked about it as far back as 2010, but I was always opposed to that as D&D was becoming more magic-heavy with each new rule-set, and my father's original Wilderlands was magic-light. I did not think it was a good fit. But by 2022, after having seen the successes of his DCC system, and always assuming that our own version would come, I agreed, because it would allow a whole new generation to see the City State with the lenses of their choosing. He told me it was bound to be grand, shipped internationally, and for the first time, printed in 5 languages! That is great guns! Joseph has a great team and he will always be considered a dear friend.
Now back in 2020, I had no problem with giving the Guild's royalties to the ADL, as it seemed the right thing to do after my irrational posts, but we agreed it was time for the Guild to make some cash, and so it was set down in 2022, but I allowed Joseph to pick his own timing, because he had more important projects, after having acquired Dark Tower and Caverns of Thracia. I assumed Jennell Jaquays would be working with Goodman over the next several years; so I provided her with copies of her many Guild letters from our files to help stir some creativity. I also hoped to gain her help on another project I will mention later, after having given her the freedom to produce a revision of Night of the Walking Wet. Sadly, Jennell passed away, and it made me all the more glad for that hug at our last parting. I always respected the talented artist she was.
Also, speaking of unpublished material, our Imperial Pegasus magazine will see revival, as a periodical, but with a likely format change. It will certainly not be a 94 page monster, but will allow us to produce all manner of content, crawls, Wilderlands expansions, sci-fi material, industry comment, and reviews. As planned, Goodman Games will produce 5 years of Dungeoneer, whereupon JG will take over production of the classic fanzine, and this will allow us to use all the Jennell Jaquays material and art that was unpublished. You may wait a bit longer than that, but the Jaquays influence will live on in the coming Dungeoneers; her original dream. As a fellow artist, I think it is fitting that those works see use in this way. I still have some of her original paintings that would make lovely prints or future covers.
Other products are here being readied for release before our Anniversary: Village Books I & II, Book of Rumors I, Amulets & Talismans, Island Book II, Washbears of the Wilderlands, Citadel of the Lion, and a first ever fantasy novel set in the Wilderlands. The Book of Rumors will be a series, providing detailed lore for each of the Wilderlands Maps areas. Island Book II, will host islands, less Mediterranean, but with a Coral Sea flavor. My fiance of 3 years, her father a provincial healer of Bukidnon, has provided much rare folklore from the Islands of the Philippines, translated from Bisayan and Mountainyard languages. And although the 2014 Maps cannot be completed, a friend from my college years has just this month found us very similar paper, made in America, that will be test printed in the coming days. Over the coming months of 2025, we hope to make use of our YouTube Channel, and provide more support for our product line, in the form of free downloads. I hope news brings many smiles. We are happy to be working with good-hearted partners, and we do thank you for supporting us all.
Sincerely, Bob Bledsaw II

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UPDATE! Goodman Games Says Bledsaw Is Not Correct!

Wobblerocket reached out to Goodman Games and got a response from Joseph Goodman who said that Goodman Games is NOT going to be producing the Dungeoneer fanzine. In Bledsaw's statement (above), Judges Guild said "As planned, Goodman Games will produce 5 years of Dungeoneer, whereupon JG will take over production of the classic fanzine". Joseph Goodman says "I think it’s best if Goodman Games speaks for what Goodman Games is doing. And Goodman Games is definitely not doing Dungeoneer."

He only refutes Bledsaw’s claim that Goodman Games will be producing Dungeoneer. He does not respond to the questions about the timing of the Invincible Overlord agreement, and was not asked about the redirection of the charity donations back to Judges Guild.

Wobblerocket: In a post on Facebook yesterday, Judges Guild stated that they agreed to allow Goodman Games to publish City State of the Invincible Overlord in 2022, two years after Goodman Games stated they were no longer going to be publishing Judges Guild projects.

Judges Guild also stated that Goodman Games is planning to publish Dungeoneers, but you have stated in your videos that you aren’t publishing any more Judges Guild projects after CSIO. I couldn’t find any information about this on your website.

Could you clarify for me if this information is correct?

Joseph Goodman: Hi — in short, this information is not correct.

Wobblerocket: Thank you.

What are the plans for the Dungeoneer magazine? Is that an IP that Goodman Games licensed from Judges Guild?

Joseph Goodman: Hi – to make a long story short, Goodman Games has or had rights to quite a few Judges Guild titles, and we have no plans to release any except CSIO.

The contracts have confidentiality clauses so I’m quite limited in what I can say. But in short…the information you emailed about is incorrect. I think it’s best if Goodman Games speaks for what Goodman Games is doing. And Goodman Games is definitely not doing Dungeoneer.

 

[darjr]

DCC is absolutely OSR.

 

[Metroido]

I dont agree with the "not really OSR" bit at all becasue of the highlighted part.

I said it's half-OSR. Like everything in life, it's a spectrum. On one end of the OSR spectrum, you might find OSE (or maybe the new OSRIC 3?) as the ultimate distilled example of OSR, with maybe Swords and Wizardry not far down the line.

On the other end, you would find 3rd Edition, which is what the OSR was initially a reaction against (5E falls a bit down the line toward the middle).

DCC was a reaction against 4e because it flopped and GG couldn't sell their 4E modules (they did very well with 3E). Since DCC contains a lot of elements of 3e as well as "Old-School" play, I find it sits half-way, in the middle.

 

[payn]

I said it's half-OSR. Like everything in life, it's a spectrum. On one end of the OSR spectrum, you might find OSE (or maybe the new OSRIC 3?) as the ultimate distilled example of OSR, with maybe Swords and Wizardry not far down the line.

On the other end, you would find 3rd Edition, which is what the OSR was initially a reaction against (5E falls a bit down the line toward the middle).

DCC was a reaction against 4e because it flopped and GG couldn't sell their 4E modules (they did very well with 3E). Since DCC contains a lot of elements of 3e as well as "Old-School" play, I find it sits half-way, in the middle.

Fair enough. As a big 3E/PF1 fan, I dont see much if any of it in DCC (which im also a fan of) but do see the departure of being a strict D&D1 clone.

 

[wobblerocket]

I reached out to Goodman Games and got an email in response:

Wobblerocket: In a post on Facebook yesterday, Judges Guild stated that they agreed to allow Goodman Games to publish City State of the Invincible Overlord in 2022, two years after Goodman Games stated they were no longer going to be publishing Judges Guild projects.

Judges Guild also stated that Goodman Games is planning to publish Dungeoneers, but you have stated in your videos that you aren’t publishing any more Judges Guild projects after CSIO. I couldn’t find any information about this on your website.

Could you clarify for me if this information is correct?

Joseph Goodman: Hi — in short, this information is not correct.

Wobblerocket: Thank you.

What are the plans for the Dungeoneer magazine? Is that an IP that Goodman Games licensed from Judges Guild?

Joseph Goodman: Hi – to make a long story short, Goodman Games has or had rights to quite a few Judges Guild titles, and we have no plans to release any except CSIO.

The contracts have confidentiality clauses so I’m quite limited in what I can say. But in short…the information you emailed about is incorrect. I think it’s best if Goodman Games speaks for what Goodman Games is doing. And Goodman Games is definitely not doing Dungeoneer.

I imagine there was an anxious phone call last night to get Bledsaw to take down his post.

 

[Whizbang Dustyboots]

Anyone know a good alternative that is fun and not owned by a company I’ll feel guilty for supporting? Lol I know there are good people making OSR type stuff out there. It’s not all JG and LotFP and people who choose to work with such knowing what they are, right?

Shadowdark or OSE.

 

[Whizbang Dustyboots]

DCC is special in that it effectively has a d20/3e-based engine tweaked towards an old-school feel and fully embraces randomness. I understand if you don't want to give money to GG in the current situation, but I can recommend giving the game a try at a convention. It's really a lot of fun.

There are also plenty of copies available second hand, like from Noble Knight.

 

[The Sigil]

You are whonyou choose to support.

That's a little simplistic, I think. If someone keeps views you find objectionable close to the vest, you choose to support them, and you later find out that they have objectionable views (or their views evolve over time from something you agree with to something you don't), I don't think that retroactively makes your support problematic.

That said, once you can reasonably be expected to know that there might be a reason not to support someone, I think there's some truth to your statement.

These creators have revealed themselves to be, stand for, or have done things which make me unwilling to provide them (or in Jackson's case his peer-age family heirs who were adults at the time of his behavior, yet enabled it rather than stopped it) with further revenue. That does not retroactively make their work not have been amazing, nor a huge influence on my life.

I say this to make clear one thing to you. It is okay to like things by people with horrible behavior. It is definitely okay to like things made by people whose heirs that now own their IP have horrible behavior. However, it is also okay (admirable, and in my opinion advisable) to not promote or provide revenue to people with horrible behavior.

Well said, Willie. This is an elegant expression of how I feel (not about all of the same works of art you quote, but about various works of art, people, and relationships throughout my life). Since people can change their views over time, I'm never going to give someone a lifetime pass (nor a lifetime ban), and some people I agree with now I have disagreed vehemently with in the past and some people I vehemently disagree with now I agreed with in the past (one or both of us has changed our views over time).

The best I can do is try to work in the present moment with people whose current views are not obviously at odds with mine, holding out the possibility that we can work together in the future, and being able to properly appreciate things that may have been done in the past when our views were not at odds (or at least, I couldn't reasonably know our views were at odds).

I don't expect GG or JG to change what they're doing to court my favor or comport with my views - that would be awfully self-centered of me. I fully intend to continue enjoy things that have already resonated with me, but until I learn our views better align do not plan to introduce new material from them into my life.

 

[Autumnal]

It must be frustrating working with someone who makes erroneous, irrational, and inflammatory statements

This is one way Nature signals us not to do business with someone.

 

[Argyle King]

"The contracts have confidentiality clauses so I’m quite limited in what I can say. But in short…the information you emailed about is incorrect. I think it’s best if Goodman Games speaks for what Goodman Games is doing. And Goodman Games is definitely not doing Dungeoneer."
~quoted from what was posted by @wobblerocket

I suspected that there might be some clause which prevented communication.

However, even if so, that is the type of thing that could be communicated:

'At this time, contractual obligations prevent me from saying more about X topic. I've consulted with our legal team; when I am legally able to discuss that further, I will release a statement. In the meantime, what I can say is Y, Z, and W.'

 

[Whizbang Dustyboots]

"The contracts have confidentiality clauses so I’m quite limited in what I can say. But in short…the information you emailed about is incorrect. I think it’s best if Goodman Games speaks for what Goodman Games is doing. And Goodman Games is definitely not doing Dungeoneer."
~quoted from what was posted by @wobblerocket

I suspected that there might be some clause which prevented communication.

However, even if so, that is the type of thing that could be communicated:

'At this time, contractual obligations prevent me from saying more about X topic. I've consulted with our legal team; when I am legally able to discuss that further, I will release a statement. In the meantime, what I can say is Y, Z, and W.'

Yeah, they 100% need the help of some sort of PR professional. And probably one with experience in crisis communications.