Just got Dragon 315 - Campaign Classics

The Dragon Lance Article summary:

1) It is called Dragon Lance: Bozak Draconian Characters (p42).

2) It is by Jamie Chambers.

3) It is two pages chock full of text.

4) it details Bozaks as player characters etc.

5) it has a side bar about the origins of Dragonlance.

There is also an article on Taladas on p.38. Taladas is the other side of Krynn (the other continent(?) on the other side of Ansalon).

1) The article is called Taladas: Angry Dead Gnomes and Sinister Walking Sharks

2) it is by James Jacobs and illustrated by Fred Hooper

3) it is 3 1/2 pages of text and has some art filling out the the page count to 4.

4) it has Companion of the Dead prestige class for gnomes of Taladas (10 levels worth). It also has details on Shark Cultists, another 10 level prestige class.

5) has side bar on history of Taladas.

So you get two specifically Krynn based articles, one Dragon Lance, one Taladas.

-E
 

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Hello,

Posted by thalmin:
If you have a bloodline (there are 3), you have a score in it that can be increased.

Actually, there are still seven bloodline derivations, based on the old gods of the Birthright world: Anduiras, Basaia, Brenna, Masela, Reynir, Vorynn, and Azrai. There are, as before, four rough levels of bloodline strength (tainted, minor, major, great), though only the last three grant any special abilities.

I'd hoped for a template system for blooded characters, rather than a Feat-based system. Perhaps in the future, the ideas can be combined, with a "blooded" template that grants bonus Feats (in amounts based on bloodline score) from a (much expanded) list of "blood Feats".

The methods given for increasing bloodline score also leave out one of the major paths to stronger bloodline in the original Birthright rules: expending Regency points, which are attained through good rulership of a domain. Instead we get a Feat, and awards for vague "heroic deeds", in addition to investiture and the "quickening" method of slaying other blooded characters (no mention of bloodsilver, either). I realize that the article had no space for full-blown Regency rules, but a simple non-"crunchy" note about the possibility of increase by that method would have been nice.

Posted by thalmin:
There is a sidebar article that explains the design team's creation of Mystara, how it started accidentally.

Yeah, who'd have thought that the map in the back of Isle of Dread would blossom into 14 Gazetteers, 5 boxed sets, 4 Almanacs, 4 Creature Crucibles, and a long-running series of Dragon Magazine articles... :)

Posted by johnsemlak:
I'm hoping for a 3.5 update of Mystara someday.

You and me both. Ideally as a single book with the quality and attention to detail lavished on the 3e Realms hardcover. But I'm not holding my breath.

Posted by Ycore Rixle:
I can only speak for the Red Steel article (that's the one I wrote). The material wasn't taken from Vaults of Pandius or any other site.

I have to say I'm glad of this independence from the "official" fan sites; while there's a lot of excellent stuff in Vaults of Pandius, I don't like where they've gone with their post-Wrath timeline. Nice article, by the way; really dealt with the essentials of the setting - the Red Curse, cinnabryl, red steel, and just a taste of the weird races. Much better than the Mystara article, which, alas, was little more than a mini-module. For that, I'd sooner have seen, say, 3.5 rewrites of some of the more famous NPCs (d'Ambervilles, Stefan Karameikos, Bargle, Terari, etc.), or some stuff on Wendar to make up for the Gazetteer teased but never delivered, or perhaps 3.5 versions of goodies like the Radiance or the Seven Secret Crafts of Glantri...

(Nice old-school handle, too. Say hi to Fonkin Hoddypeak and Beek Gwenders of Croodle for me... ;))

Posted by Erik Mona:
if I'm going to be doing "cultural" fantasy mini-games (which I've a mind to do) I'd rather focus on something that hasn't really been done before, like India, Egypt, Assyria, Nubia, etc.

"Hasn't really been done before?" You have Mystara and Hollow World articles in the very issue being discussed here. Have you never heard of Sind (based on India, though at last glance more like India in the Mughal period, as they are under foreign domination)? Nithia (based on Egypt)? The Yavldom Divinarchy and Ulimwengu (based very loosely on sub-Saharan cultures, with a strong prophetic component for Yavldom)? You could set your mini-games there, for a change of flavor, and reel in some of the old Mystara fans as well... :)

I'm quite happy with the issue - it's the first one I've bought in over two years, and more love for the old classic settings (especially Mystara and Birthright), both the stuff that didn't fit in this issue, and all-new material, will no doubt tempt me into further purchases in the future. :)

Hope this helps!
 

Tratyn Runewind said:
"Hasn't really been done before?" You have Mystara and Hollow World articles in the very issue being discussed here. Have you never heard of Sind (based on India, though at last glance more like India in the Mughal period, as they are under foreign domination)? Nithia (based on Egypt)? The Yavldom Divinarchy and Ulimwengu (based very loosely on sub-Saharan cultures, with a strong prophetic component for Yavldom)? You could set your mini-games there, for a change of flavor, and reel in some of the old Mystara fans as well... :)

Yeah but Al-Quadim is so much more arabian than any of those conform to their bse. I'm not happy, but I can see his point. Well, not about India given Mindshadows but in general.

I'm quite happy with the issue - it's the first one I've bought in over two years, and more love for the old classic settings (especially Mystara and Birthright), both the stuff that didn't fit in this issue, and all-new material, will no doubt tempt me into further purchases in the future. :)

I buy every issue, but this one is fantastic. Most of these settings I don't like or use but there was stuff to take from most of them. I'm really looking forward to the more reprinting of al-quadim stuff that is mentioned in the intro, and I loved the greyhawk feats. I plan to use them in my non-GH campaign and look foward to more.

Good job Paizo!!!
 

Orius said:
I'd like to see enough cruncy bits on shai'irs, defilers, bloodlines and maybe the Red Curse to be able to dump stuff like that IMC.

And I got it! Yeay! :)

Just picked up a copy of the issue today (the last copy of the issue left in the local Borders), and those four articles were definitely my favorites. Like I was hoping for, lots of easy-to-steal crunchy bits to mine for my campaign.

I'd say my least favorites of all of them were the Realms article, the Taladas article, and the Ghostwalk article. All of them simply offered PrCs that didn't interest me in the slightest.

Anyway, let me just say that overall, it was a great issue!
 
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I loved this issue, and I'll be using quite a few of the new rule elements in my homebrew setting. The Fleshvigor Undead Template, added to Zombies, will make an excellent "Day of the Dead" type Zombie, for exemple. And the Defiling Magic rules, with some adaptation, would be a perfect alternate magic source for Necromancer Specialists.

Haven't found a use for too many other rules, but I'm liking this so far..
 

Success?

So does anyone know if this issue was actually a success and something that may be like the Halloween and Dragon issues in that it crops up every year?

I know I'd love to see these old settings get at least a little coverage every year.
 

JoeGKushner said:
So does anyone know if this issue was actually a success and something that may be like the Halloween and Dragon issues in that it crops up every year?

I know I'd love to see these old settings get at least a little coverage every year.

Reading the replys here I would like to think they will. This issue has gotten a lot of notice and nearly nothing bad was said of it. Take a hint folks- we want our campaigns renewed. :)
 

It'll be more then a year before we get more material. The April 2004 issue of Dragon will feature more in-depth coverage of Kara-Tur with a full 3.5 update, and the May 2004 issue will feature a 3.5 update of Dark Sun, right in time for the Revised Psionics Handbook.

Hopefully, they'll also cover settings like Spelljammer, Council of Wyrms and The Horde in future issues.
 

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Posted by Erik Mona:
if I'm going to be doing "cultural" fantasy mini-games (which I've a mind to do) I'd rather focus on something that hasn't really been done before, like India, Egypt, Assyria, Nubia, etc.
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"Hasn't really been done before?" You have Mystara and Hollow World articles in the very issue being discussed here.
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Mmm hmmm. Real popular, that Hollow World. ;)

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Have you never heard of Sind (based on India, though at last glance more like India in the Mughal period, as they are under foreign domination)?
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I've only barely heard of this. I'd hazard to guess more than 98% of the active D&D player base has never heard of this. Hollow World was about as low-impact a "setting" anyone could have ever hoped for. The D&D Gaz stuff was only marginally better known. I confess that "fantasy India" has been done before, but I'd like to try to take a more modern approach. Oh, and tie it into Greyhawk, of course. ;)

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Nithia (based on Egypt)?
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Not popular. Sorry.

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The Yavldom Divinarchy and Ulimwengu (based very loosely on sub-Saharan cultures, with a strong prophetic component for Yavldom)? You could set your mini-games there, for a change of flavor, and reel in some of the old Mystara fans as well...
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These ones I've actually never heard of, but I trust you. Hasn't Mystara been liscenced by Kenzer, or something? I probably won't be doing much with it in the magazine, although I do confess a certain fondness for some of the original basic D&D adventures and Dave Arneson's Blackmoor stuff.

Was there an ancient Nubia analogue in the Known World?

--Erik
 

Erik,

Great issue, so good that rather than waiting the usual three months before I email the Customer Service guys to get them to send me my subscription copies I went and bought it (I wait three months so as to save Paizo some postage... nice, eh?). BTW, you guys really need to sack your mailing house....

Question: are there any plans to sell the Dark Sun rules for 3.5E next year as a download? I would really love to have a copy of the DS3.5E rules without advertising. Can this be done? Nevertheless, I think your DS3.5E article is now my most anticipated product for 2004. ;)
 
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