Just out of curiosity...

As awful as it may sounds, the gnolls were initially said to be hybrids of gnomes and trolls. (Yeah, I know, you're saying, "WTF, gnolls are neither like gnomes nor trolls".)

If it were up to me, in your chart, Escalator, I would consider impossible all hybrids between Small and Large creatures. Gnome+Goblin, OK, Gnome+Ogre, NA. (It seems more justified there than for elf-orc crossbreeds, since both elves and orcs may crossbreed with humans. Orel ? :D)
 

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Well, regarding the Ogre/Elf crossbreed. They share almost none of the traits of their parent races. For one thing they are small, only standing about 4' tall, they are highly intelligent (which neither ogres or woodelves are, woodelves being the elf part), and non-elves tend to find them 'irresistebly cute' :p

I think I will go with Ogel or something similarly short. Expect them some time next week. :D
 

Gez said:
A long-time poster on these boards (although I havn't noticed him for a while), Arcady, used to rule that since human may breed between both orcs and elves, that was because they were initially the offsprings of orcs and elves. A funny idea.

actually, that's not all that bizarre... :eek:
 

Gez said:
If it were up to me, in your chart, Escalator, I would consider impossible all hybrids between Small and Large creatures. Gnome+Goblin, OK, Gnome+Ogre, NA.

I like this idea. It'll cut off my workload considerably and it makes sense. Now I just have to decide which creatures such a fate will fall under.

I know gnomes, halflings, and goblins will, definitely, though what about dwarves? They aren't all that small. Think I should include dwarves as being incapable of breeding with ogres and trolls?
 

X-Calator said:
Elf + Goblin = Elblin
Dwarf + Orc = Dwarc
Dwarf + Goblin = Dwoblin
Dwarf + Ogre = Dwogre
Dwarf + Troll = Dwoll
Gnome + Orc = Gnorc
Gnome + Goblin = Gnoblin
Gnome + Ogre = Gnogre
Orc + Dwarf = Oarf
Goblin + Dwarf = Gwarf
Goblin + Orc = Goborc
Goblin + Ogre = Gobogre
Ogre + Gnome = Ogrome
Ogre + Goblin = Ogroblin
Ogre + Troll = Ogroll
Troll + Elf = Trelf
Troll + Orc = Trorc
Troll + Goblin = Troblin
Troll + Ogre = Trogre/B]


:D
 

Personally...
For my campaign, I briefly considered doing a genetics sorting and quantify all of the half-breeds. In my version, humans had relativly protean genes, as did orcs and trolls, being able to crossbreed with most anything, although human/dwarves and human/gnomes were always stillborn. Elves could breed between their subtypes, and with orcs and trolls. Dwarves and gnomes could interbreed. Halfling and human relations produced short humans with foot hair issues. Goblinoids could breed amongst themselves, and with orcs, trolls and ogres. Giant and human hybrids usually ended up rather similar to ogres, albeit smarter. Trogs and lizardfolk could crossbreed.

Just throwing out ideas that are a little more logical than "everything can do it with everything else".

Demiurge out.
 

Well, demiurge, your thoughts are appreciated, though I like my half-dwarf character too much to abandon it.

Who says D&D has to be logical, anyway? :D
 

Actually, in regards to half-elf/half-ogres, such creatures do in fact exist in D&D. Sometime during the early to mid 90's, in an installment of 'The Adventures of the Princess Ark' (a serial about the exploration of the far corners of the world of Mystara in a flying ship), the crew of the Ark ran into a culture of halfbreed elf/ogres called N'djadtwa that lived on Davania, the planet's southern continent. I don't remember the details, but I believe they were said to be a little taller than humans but about the same build, with light brown skin; their facial features were rather ugly, like ogres, but with an elf's high cheekbones and pointed ears.

As far as my personal setting goes, I tend to allow the following crossbreeds:

- Half-human/half-elf: same as PH
- Half-human/half-orc: same as PH
- Half-human/half-ogre: same as in Savage Species
- Half-human/half-dwarf: looks like a skinny dwarf about elf height, or a short, stocky human
- Half-human/half-neandethal: pretty much just a short, ugly human (neanderthals IMC are civilized members of society)
- Half-dwarf/half-gnome 'gully dwarves': same as those from Dragonlance: short and dirty, and limited in intelligence, found in dwarven ghettoes
- Half-dwarf/half-neanderthal: pretty much the same as a human/dwarf but stockier and uglier
- Half-gnome/half-halfling 'low gnomes': smaller than gnomes and either more heavyset (if the halfling parent was a 2E-style hairfoot) or skinnier (if the halfling parent was a 3E-style lightfoot; I make use of both)
- Half-orc/half-ogre: if the mother was an orc, it's an orog (no connection to the orogs in Races of Faerun); if the mother was an ogre, it's an ogrillon. Both can be found in the Creature Catalog
- Orc/ogre-dwarf/gnome/halfling crosses or others might be possible, but are very rare because of the difference in size and temperament of the races
- Half-goblin/half-hobgoblin: a little shorter than elves, pretty much look like tall, muscular goblins with sharper features
- Trolls are magical in nature and can breed with just about anything the right size

I also have a few races that are descended from halfbreeds but have over time become 'pure' races: derros (degenerate human/dwarves that actually came to my world via portals from the World of Greyhawk, their homeworld), sundered and sea dwarves (surface-dwelling dwarves with a little human blood), and a few cultures of pureblood half-elves.

These decisions are based pretty much on what branch of the humanoid family the race in question belongs to: 'hominds' include humans, neanderthals, dwarves, gnomes, halflings, orcs, and ogres (elves are actually magical beings created directly by Corellon that can only breed with humans); and 'goblinoids' include goblins, hobgoblins, bugbears, norkers (goblinoids from the 2E Greyhawk MC), and erlkings (forest goblins from Dragon Magazine), but only goblins and hobgoblins are known to be interfertile.

In regards to non-hominid or goblinoid humanoids, I pretty much don't go for anything, with the following exceptions: lizardfolk and troglodytes can crossbreed to make trens (see the CC), lupins (dog-folk stolen from Mystara) can crossbreed with wolvenfolk (humanoid wolves) to make 'demi-wolvenfolk' for lack of a better name, and various subraces of rakastas (cat-folk also lifted from Mystara) can crossbreed (specifically: cat/lynx, lion/tiger, and lion/leopard).
 

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