Iron_Chef said:
I use the term "illogical" to describe any setting that has 1) dozens, if not hundreds, of human, non-human and monster races all sitting side by side (many in harmony, such as the thousands of gnomish defenders of the human city of Geanavue) just because the PHB and MM say they exist in D&D so therefore they "must" exist in Kalamar; 2) a bloated FR level NON-pantheon of dozens of gods (none of which have proper names); 3) a setting that has the same access to magical spells (and thus items) and does not take into account the drastic economic, educational, militaristic and transportation applications thereof, as these would immediately be exploited by governments for their betterment and their enemies detriment.
Maybe Kalamar is better than GH or FR, I've never played it, nor have I read all of the setting or its sourcebooks,
You need to re-read your Geanavue.
You admit to knowing little about the setting, then slam things about it which are in the end false anyway.
You're wrong for Kalamar on all three points above. But you sit here and demostrate such ignorance and stick to it that it's not really much of a suprise that you can't get these points right for it.
But if you just can't stand the idea of a multi-species society you might be making the wrong choice in playing DnD.
Attack it for it's feel, for not liking DnD, for not liking the fans, for not liking whatever is an issue of taste...
But don't make false claims about the facts of it and then use those to attack it. If you just don't know... then you don't know and need to stop using the 'illogical' wording...
as well as suffering from the sanitizing effect of political correctness, which flies in the face of the logic of human nature.
You say this about the setting with a cost chart for slaves... where a hobgoblin worshiper of the dark one can walk down the streets of a major city openly... where the conflicts are defined in terms of ethnic stryfe...
Kalamar is not politically correct, anyone who'd read it would know that.
And only someone who's read it has a right to attack the detailed facts of it. Anyone else can only attack the flavor it, it's fans, or the company - on issues of taste and opinion, but not fact.
but it does not *appear* different enough from FR/GH to me to warrant switching.
This is the only thing you've got that is opinion based enough to warrant itself, since you've got that 'appear' qualifier on it. Yes it might appear that way, though an actual read would show it's differences. I've often felt Kalamar suffers from it's presentation - at least in the early works much of the richness of the setting often wasn't apparent on the surface - it takes a deep read.
