Keeping trolls dead?

[Drakeskull]

Ok I would like to see how every one keeps there trolls dead and kills there trolls and the ways they can die. Can they die from death from massive damage? Can you coup de grace them with out fire or acid? Do you have to do that much accual fire or acid damage to keep them dead or do you allow them to simply after it is knocked unconsios cut there head off with a flaming sword?

 

[Doctor Bomb]

Can they die from death from massive damage? ?

In my campaign, yes. In others, no. Like old-school 2e DND, death from massive damage is a "system shock" and represents the fact that some trauma is just too much to overcome.

Of course, like a starfish, unless you kill all the parts, one or two pieces might just make a few new trolls....

Can you coup de grace them with out fire or acid? ?

Again, depends on the DM. You can do a coup de grace to "kill" it, but that really only drops it to -10 hp (or some other number, if you have KEWL house rules) and it can technically regenerate unless "seared" into that state with fire or acid (or a little disintegration, or a harm spell even. Yet again, depends on the DM.)

Do you have to do that much accual fire or acid damage to keep them dead or do you allow them to simply after it is knocked unconsios cut there head off with a flaming sword?

Well, cutting the head off with a flaming sword would definitely fill all the prerequisites. Other damage dealt will regenerate, until that final blow.

Enjoy your troll-slaying!

 

[HellHound]

I believe that a coup de grace will work on a regenerating creature, as long as the weapon used to deliver it deals real damage instead of subdual damage (such as a flaming sword)

 

[Altamont Ravenard]

I believe that a coup de grace will work on a regenerating creature, as long as the weapon used to deliver it deals real damage instead of subdual damage (such as a flaming sword)

That's what I also recall. Give the rogue a torch and let him coup de grâce the mofo.

AR

 

[Caliban]

Ok I would like to see how every one keeps there trolls dead and kills there trolls and the ways they can die.

Burn'em or drown'em. Acid is generally to expensive.

Can they die from death from massive damage?

Yes, if the damage is of a type they can't regenerate.

The way Regeneration works in 3.5 is that all damage is non-lethal damage, unless it's of a type they are vulnerable to.

So doing 50+ points of damage (in a single hit) to a troll using a normal club would not cause a Massive Damage check, as it's all non-lethal damage. You might knock unconcious for a few rounds until he regenerates, but it can't kill him.

If you do 50+ points of damage with a fireball, that counts as real damage to the troll, and can force a massive damage save.

Can you coup de grace them with out fire or acid?

No, it has to be an attack form they are vulnerable to (such as fire or acid).

Do you have to do that much accual fire or acid damage to keep them dead or do you allow them to simply after it is knocked unconsios cut there head off with a flaming sword?

Technically you have to do that much actual fire or acid damage, or have them fail the fort save from a Coup De Gras using a flaming or acidic weapon.

Cutting their head off with a flaming sword would fall under the Coup De Gras heading. It might take a few whacks to make sure (i.e. they might make the first fort save or two, since only the flaming damage would be used to calculate the save DC), but it's usually a foregone conclusion at that point.

 

[Andre]

I believe that a coup de grace will work on a regenerating creature, as long as the weapon used to deliver it deals real damage instead of subdual damage (such as a flaming sword)

Note, a coup de grace does not automatically kill the target. Using a torch (which does 1d6? fire damage) may not kill the troll in one cdg, but it should eventually. Just make sure the troll doesn't wake up while you're hitting it with that little torch - it won't be happy.

Also, trolls can still be killed by normal means. For instance, stick its head in a bucket of water and beat on it with normal weapons (to keep it unconscious). It will drown in a few minutes. Or just throw it in a nearby pond or deep pool - same effect. Of course, this doesn't work on scrags - you can hang them from a nearby tree. Poison, level drain (enervation) and other such effects will work on trolls.

 

[Corlon]

well, you could just keep beating it until it has enough damage to stay down for a long time.

 

[Darkness]

well, you could just keep beating it until it has enough damage to stay down for a long time.

Yep. Be sure to do more (real) damage per round than the amount of non-lethal it regenerates (i.e., 5), though, or it might get up again before you are done.

 

[Gez]

Technically you have to do that much actual fire or acid damage, or have them fail the fort save from a Coup De Gras using a flaming or acidic weapon.

You can't make a coup de gras with an a flaming or acidic weapon. Both fire and acid would destroy grease rather than generating it. Since grease is inflammable, though, you could make a Coup de Flamme using an oleaginous weapon. You just have to provide the spark.

You're right on the other points of your post, though.

 

[Henrix]