D&D 3.x Knightfall's "Humanoids + Templates = Fun" Thread (Retired)

[Devon]

One time I created a templated creature and although the template didn't call for it, its new type would have lowered its BAB -- I had to just ignore it. I think it was the move from Monstrous Humanoid to Aberration (I may have been using the Insectile template).

I don't know -- has that been the unwritten rule of templates that you retroactively apply its type traits?

- Devon

 

[Krishnath]

I don't know, I just do it anyways. But then again I usually let the templated creature keep the better creature type of the base creature/template. For example, a Half-Troll Balor, should still be an outsider IMHO. But then again, I always have the undead type override any creature type that might otherwise be applied. I do the same with the outsider and dragon types, except in the case they would come into conflict with the undead type (which takes predescense), or each other, where I go with the one that makes most sense.

 

[Kitsunekaboom]

As far as I know you don't retro fit stuff unless it says so, if it says "same as base creature" you just leave it as is I think. (And since I'm lazy, it works for me

 

[Krishnath]

Well, Although the templates usually doesn't 'retrofit' the base creature. Most of WotC's sample creatures are retro-fitted anyways. Of course, when retro-fitting, I ignore class levels, unless the template makes the creature an undead of course. And even then I usually skip the saves.

 

[Knightfall]

Check out my custom trader class. This is the favored class for my star gnomes and xanth lizard men, for my World of Kulan campaign setting (previously posted on this thread).

Let me know what you all think of the class.

http://enworld.cyberstreet.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=56483

Cheers!

KF72

 

[Krishnath]

I must say, I like the Trader class, although I have a few comments (you know I would ). I think you could drop the sea trader and planar trader entries without weakening the class. Instead I suggest you make them Prestige Classes. For example, the planar trader (PrC) would be a 5 or 10 level prestige class that would give Planeshift ( only to the outlands at first, eventually to any inner or outer plane) a number of times per day, as well as resistance bonuses against elemental energies. The sea trader (PrC) would get seafearing bonuses, and eventually get a ship and stuff. But that's probably just me.

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Also, I have an idea for some templated lizardfolk variants, I think I'll start posting them next week. Keep an eye out.

 

[Knightfall]

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[Buddha the DM]

Try zipping the file first before attaching it.