Hussar
Legend
No, BryonD I didn't give up and walk away, I had actually shown you to be wrong, and figured that nothing more needed to be said after you agreed. But, apparently, it needed to be pinned down a bit more. So, with that in mind:
Pretty cut and dried there.
Let's move on to 2e D&D:
Again, you only make a saving throw AFTER you look at the medusa. No save for avoiding its gaze.
Now on to 3e D&D, and let's actually use the books, not the SRD shall we, since the books trump the SRD:
Always helps to go to the primary source. So, I'll admit, I can't quote from OD&D or the 1e Monster Manual or the 3.5 Monster Manual, but, in 3 of the 6 pre-4e editions, you are flat out wrong.
So, can we please, please, have a SoD discussion without descending yet again into your medusa fetish?
Molvay Basic Page B39 said:The sight of a medusa will turn a creature to stone unless the victim saves vs Turn to Stone.
Pretty cut and dried there.
Let's move on to 2e D&D:
2e Monstrous Manual said:found here Once the medusa is within 30 feet, it strikes, trying to get its victim to look into its eyes. Any creature within 30 feet must make a saving throw versus petrification or turn instantly to lifeless stone.
Again, you only make a saving throw AFTER you look at the medusa. No save for avoiding its gaze.
Now on to 3e D&D, and let's actually use the books, not the SRD shall we, since the books trump the SRD:
3e Monster Manual Page 131 said:It uses normal weapons to attack those who avert their eyes or survive its gaze
Always helps to go to the primary source. So, I'll admit, I can't quote from OD&D or the 1e Monster Manual or the 3.5 Monster Manual, but, in 3 of the 6 pre-4e editions, you are flat out wrong.
So, can we please, please, have a SoD discussion without descending yet again into your medusa fetish?