Lack of sleep

tensen said:
If you ever actually use those rules in play, you'll find out just how hard it is for a low level character to stay awake. So don't get stuck without sleep until at least 6th level :)

Actually, once you have a 3rd level cleric, sleep can be optional. Ah, Lesser Restoration.
 

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I just recently retired a character that at one point had to get somewhere ASAP, and only had his own two feet. He also had a High CON, Endurance, Fast Movement, and a wicked Fort save.

I finally had to stop from Exaustion 3 days later. Heh, Phiddippides can eat it!

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I'd use the forced march mechanic, but would only require 6 hours of sleep for the non-spellcasters. Tha'd be a house rule though.
 



From experience I find that even after a day or 2 without sleep, any sort of physical activity will wake me right up.. adrenalin and all that. I'd perhaps give a penalty to skill checks/will saves after the first night with no sleep, but no combat penalties... 2nd night a greater penalty to skills and fatigued in combat type thing etc, maybe something with fort saves in there tho idunno. Seems more realistic to me but thats just imo ;)

As a point of trivia some guy back in 1965 set a record for going without sleep of 265 hours... I bet he was feeling it after that !
 




From my experience in the army, I can say that you can go without sleep for about a week if you got something to do and if you don't do any prolonged hard physical activity like marching with 60 kg of gear (since after two days you'll be totally sore and have cramps etc if you don't rest though I'm not a lvl 10 fighter with mad Fort saves).

I had stayed up for like 6-7 days and I was standing in guard outside our camp, I fell asleep standing but woke up immediately before I fell to the ground. And I also saw the snow moving and little guys running in the spruce branches. Also I could hardly think anything else than finding a nice warm place to sleep in (I've never stayed up so long that I'd be so suicidal that I'd sleep in snow when it's -25 C).

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Ya, amount of physical activity makes a difference. Also your environment and diet. I have a field job that involves a lot of driving in rual areas and such while I live in the big, bad city. I find I can operate safely for days on approximately 4 hours sleep /day, in 1 to 2 hour cat naps, as long as I don't come back to the city. 5-6 hours/day average and I can go 7 days/week for weeks. I'll camp or sleep in the vehicle often, bascially when I feel that alertness could be suffering (am constantly aware for this as it is my biggest safety risk). Sometimes I get a motel room, but usually that would cause me to have less sleep because I have to drive there. Besides too much can 'soften' you up, and then you have to convince your body to recommit. By this I'm refering to the second worst part of it all, getting your body to resign itself to the grind, which can take a couple days.

The worst part though is stopping. Your body experiences such a letdown after running full out that you are quite vulnerable to falling sick from cold/flu within a 48 hour window. You get back to a super comfy bed and you are driven to sleep. While usually not physically demanding, the job is often mentally stressful, if for no other reason than having to will yourself not to just quit and drive home on bad days after a month non-stop work. Unfortunately while you sleep your body drastically lowers your immune system functions while goes through the body renual/repair cycle.

I've found that diet is key while working. Heavy on fruits and veggies, little or no resturaunt meals or processed snack foods (pop, candy, and especially chips because of the flavour coatings). Protien from nuts/seeds, but not including peanuts since even unsalted dry roasted peanuts ones make me thirsty so I take that as a bad sign, and the occational hot meal of an omlette. Also I take a daily fish oil supplement, but that is to nulify mild depression bouts I have historically had dating back to a nasty divorce/custody battle years ago. Unless it's very hot weather, or I excert myself a lot, I eat enough fruit & veggies that I don't need to drink. That all coupled with a Cold FX regimine when stopping work seems to do the trick of keeping the body clicking right, remaining safetly alert while living on cat naps, and not falling apart at the start of downtime.

However as soon as I drive back into the city "bang" it's back to 7+ hours/night. I think it's the lower O2 content, or the much higher CO and ongoing air polutant content (the city is not particularly bad, but you notice it coming back to it). Also if I get into a situation where I physically tire myself, such as getting stuck damn good in a snow drift where I have to shovel for an hour straight, or my job turns towards the physical (cleaning drilling mud tanks or digging a lot of soil samples). Then the sleepies creep up and I need some extra sleep for the day, sometimes right away if I had been going for a lot of hours straight since napping.
 

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