Leap Attack

[Elephant]

The feat states:

Leap Attack
You can combine a powerful charge and a mighty leap into one devestating attack.
Prerequisites: Jump 8 ranks, Power Attack
Benefit: You can combine a jump with a charge against an opponent. If you cover at least 10 feet of horizontal distance with your jump, and you end your jump in a square from which you threaten your target, you can double the extra damage dealt by your use of the Power Attack feat. If you use this tactic with a two-handed weapon, you instead triple the extra damage from Power Attack.
This attack must follow all the normal rules for using the Jump skill and for making a charge, except that you ignore rough terrain in any squares you jump over.

My question is: On a charge with a Lance, I PA for 5. How much damage do I add from Power Attack?
10 (1 for 1 trading, Lance in one hand, PA bonus doubled),
15 (2 for 1, Lance is a two-handed weapon, 5 is tripled as a result of D&D multiple doubling), or
30 (2 for 1, 10 is tripled)?

Now replace the Lance in the above example with a Greatsword. Is the answer any different?

 

[Starglim]

+30 points

A lance is a two-handed weapon. If you Leap Attack with a two-handed weapon you triple the extra damage due to Power Attack. The damage due to Power Attack is +10 points.

You don't apply D&D's multiplication rule because you are explicitly doing two separate multiplications (take the total damage due to Power Attack, and triple it). The result of D&D multiplication would be +20 points (double, followed by triple, translates to x4).

Alternately the feat text may mean that you triple the extra damage due to sacrificing BAB, instead of doubling it as you normally would do for Power Attack, so the answer would be +15 points. I'd house rule this as more balanced but the RAW do not support it.

A greatsword is also a two-handed weapon so the effect of Leap Attack is identical.

 

[Testament]

Alternately the feat text may mean that you triple the extra damage due to sacrificing BAB, instead of doubling it as you normally would do for Power Attack, so the answer would be +15 points. I'd house rule this as more balanced but the RAW do not support it.

A greatsword is also a two-handed weapon so the effect of Leap Attack is identical.

Conspicuously, this is how its treated in Living Greyhawk.

 

[Patryn of Elvenshae]

Alternately[/I] the feat text may mean that you triple the extra damage due to sacrificing BAB, instead of doubling it as you normally would do for Power Attack, so the answer would be +15 points. I'd house rule this as more balanced but the RAW do not support it.

There's no alternately about it. That's the way it is written.

Benefit: On your action, before making attack rolls for a round, you may choose to subtract a number from all melee attack rolls and add the same number to all melee damage rolls. This number may not exceed your base attack bonus. The penalty on attacks and bonus on damage apply until your next turn.

Special: If you attack with a two-handed weapon, or with a one-handed weapon wielded in two hands, instead add twice the number subtracted from your attack rolls.

... you can double the extra damage dealt by your use of the Power Attack feat. If you use this tactic with a two-handed weapon, you instead triple the extra damage from Power Attack.

 

[Starglim]

The extra damage dealt by your use of Power Attack, for a two-handed weapon, is +2 for each point of BAB that you sacrifice.

 

[Daermon]

I love that Feat. Particularly when combined with Flying Kick, Stunning Fist and Fists of Iron.

Now, imagine that on a Dwarf Monk/Barbarian/Fighter multiclass. In full plate.

Slight threadjack here, and I apologize. But there is something I have been wondering.

Gauntlets are defined as a weapon which counts as an unarmed attack when used. So, if you magic those gauntlets and take an amulet of mighty fists, do they stack?

EDIT: Yes, I realize that build couldn't technically happen, unless your alignment changes drastically.

Stilll, would be fun.

 

[glass]

My question is: On a charge with a Lance, I PA for 5. How much damage do I add from Power Attack?
10 (1 for 1 trading, Lance in one hand, PA bonus doubled),

IIRC, you can only use a lance in one hand if you are mounted.

Can you use Leap Attack if you are mounted? It says you have to jump. Could you jump of your mount as part of the charge? And if so, could you still claim to be mounted for the purposes of lance damage?


glass.

 

[Starglim]

Can you use Leap Attack if you are mounted? It says you have to jump. Could you jump of your mount as part of the charge? And if so, could you still claim to be mounted for the purposes of lance damage?

If your mount charges, you receive the bonus and suffer the AC penalty incurred by a charge. You can urge your mount to jump obstacles (Ride DC 15) and jumping is part of your mount's movement. It's not explicitly stated, but not much of a stretch to say that if your mount charges and jumps, and you succeed on a Ride check, you can benefit from Leap Attack.

 

[Patryn of Elvenshae]

The extra damage dealt by your use of Power Attack, for a two-handed weapon, is +2 for each point of BAB that you sacrifice.

Er, no. The damage done by Power Attack is +1 for each -1 you accept, up to a maximum of your BAB.

Normally, a two-handed weapon (or a one-handed weapon in two hands) lets you double the Power Attack damage.

When Leap Attacking with a two-handed weapon (or a one-handed weapon in two hands), you triple the Power Attack damage.

 

[werk]

Er, no. The damage done by Power Attack is +1 for each -1 you accept, up to a maximum of your BAB.

Normally, a two-handed weapon (or a one-handed weapon in two hands) lets you double the Power Attack damage.

When Leap Attacking with a two-handed weapon (or a one-handed weapon in two hands), you triple the Power Attack damage.

don't forget charge.