D&D 5E (2014) Let's Talk About Guns in 5E

[Sacrosanct]

There's definitely a difference between a wand of fireballs and a gun...

Indeed. Having fired many firearms, and what I'd call the equivalent of a wand of fireballs (MK-19 grenade launcher), there isn't a whole lot of skill needed to lob grenades, but a lot of skill in operating a firearm. A lot more moving pieces and a lot more body/breathing control to be remotely accurate with it.

 

[Tonguez]

There's definitely a difference between a wand of fireballs and a gun...

so other than being restricted to spellcasters, what is it though?

 

[LuisCarlos17f]

My fear is if firearms are added then players wouldn't want to play with barbarians, monks or other classes too focused into hand-to-hand combat. A possible solution could be to add bulletproof enemies what had to be killed "in the old way".

Other point is when the enemies are the shooters and PCs can't because they come from a lower-level civilitation

Even if firearms were allowed the PCs could bet for the magitek version because these don't suffer malfuctions. DM and players could invent low-level spells to cause malfuctions of firearms.

Some players could want firearms from d20 Past.

If enemies can use firearms each one would need its own monster-stats.

 

[UnplayedRanger]

nvm

 

[Tonguez]

My fear is if firearms are added then players wouldn't want to play with barbarians, monks or other classes too focused into hand-to-hand combat.

Why? Barbarians have damage resistance - so a percing bullet is only doing half damage even if its 3d6, Monks are suppose to be fast and able to dodge projectiles in order to get closeup in melee

Other point is when the enemies are the shooters and PCs can't because they come from a lower-level civilitation

differences in tech is a feature of some games so thats not really a reason not to explore guns appearing - eg maybe only dwarfs have gunsmithing. You could plan an entire adventure around PCs being sent in to steal a crate of guns for use against the invading dwarven fusiliers

Even if firearms were allowed the PCs could bet for the magitek version because these don't suffer malfuctions. DM and players could invent low-level spells to cause malfuctions of firearms.Some players could want firearms from d20 Past.

again its a magic wand - a wand of magic missiles is always an auto hit, as least the firearm has to be aimed first and roll to hit.
Im not sure whats wrong with D20 Past weapons

If enemies can use firearms each one would need its own monster-stats.

why would they need seperate monster stats? theyre a weapon

 

[Reynard]

so other than being restricted to spellcasters, what is it though?

I can't think of a martial weapon that lets you do massive area of effect damage...

 

[Reynard]

My fear is if firearms are added then players wouldn't want to play with barbarians, monks or other classes too focused into hand-to-hand combat.

Why? There are already eldritch blasts and crossbows.

 

[payn]

Why? There are already eldritch blasts and crossbows.

Right? When Paizo added the gunslinger it was broken as all hell, but people still wanted to play everything else still.

 

[Tonguez]

I can't think of a martial weapon that lets you do massive area of effect damage...

cleave mastery lets you hit multiple targets, I'd allow it for ranged weapons too

 

[Reynard]

Right? When Paizo added the gunslinger it was broken as all hell, but people still wanted to play everything else still.

Everyone except Taliesin...