D&D 5E (2014) Let's Talk About Guns in 5E

[Remathilis]

Link legend of zelda is in one of the SC games too if i'm not getting my series mixed up.

He made a guest appearance. So has Spawn, Heihachi, Eizo, 2B, Geralt, Kratos and Darth Vader and Yoda. So guests are wild as far as that goes.

 

[TwoSix]

So if 1586 is "medieval", then we might agree. If it's not, then I don't think we can call D&D or Soul Calibur medieval...

Agreed. To this day, Soul Calibur is the template in my mind for what D&D-style martial classes should look like.

 

[James Gasik]

What Remathilis said.

 

[Laurefindel]

One of my favorite video game series was Soul Calibur. A fantasy weapon-based fighting game series where heroes were pulled from all across genres of fantasy. Some of the main characters included:

• A baker girl turned champion of Haephestus.
• A Holy Roman Empire knight.
• A ninja demon hunter
• A samurai
• A shou-lin monk
• A tribesman from the New World
• A Spanish pirate
• A French nobleman swashbuckler

What year was the games set in? 1586. And the pirate has a gun built in the hilt of his sword that was used to wound the priestess of the Greek God.

There is no way that realistically those characters could meet up at that period in history. But SC doesn't care about historical accuracy (if the lizard person is giant golem fighters didn't give that away). Still, I would not really call the game medieval either. To me, it is a fantasy aesthetic that grabs elements from across eras and mixes them with the vaguest veneer of plausibility. D&D does the same.

So if 1586 is "medieval", then we might agree. If it's not, then I don't think we can call D&D or Soul Calibur medieval...

Oh yes, Soul Calibur is peak medieval fantasy

 

[saviirkad]

So if 1586 is "medieval", then we might agree. If it's not, then I don't think we can call D&D or Soul Calibur medieval...

IIRC that is just outside of the Medieval period, but within the Renaissance era, the beginning of which overlapping with the last part of the former.

But I thought it was generally accepted that D&D was Renaissance. At least current D&D. It's certainly the most common era I've seen applied in online conversations. It's not been the era of my games but that's a different matter entirely.

 

[Remathilis]

Oh yes, Soul Calibur is peak medieval fantasy

Just out of curiosity, when did the medieval era end for you?

 

[Laurefindel]

Just out of curiosity, when did the medieval era end for you?

Officially? 1454 or 1492, depending what you consider the beginning of the renaissance. I’ll let the scholars argue. Obviously it varied a lot geographically, and it’s not exactly clear when the era became aware of its own existence.

“Medieval Fantasy” sits comfortably over periods of the renaissance however. The “ren” part of ren fairs stands for renaissance, so not even medieval historically speaking. “Renaissance Fantasy” would likely be more accurate, but it’s the term “Medieval Fantasy” that stuck. Don’t ask me why. A mix or ignorance and willful anachronism probably.

 

[GrimCo]

D&D is what Victorian romantics envisioned high medieval period looked like, with liberal dash of Renaissance tech/art and modern world views.

 

[LuisCarlos17f]

Medieval fantasy is when there is more hand-to-hand combat, and the use of gunpowder and steam engines has not yet become widespread.
Theros is officially a D&D world but it's inspired into Grecolatin culture. Is it "medieval"? And the videogame "God of War: Ragnarok", or the movie "Wrath of the Titans"?
Fantasy with firearms and steam engines would be "fantasy steampunk", like "Kingdoms of Iron: Requiem"
Gunslinger PCs can be cool when there aren't more like you but when the PCs face lots of enemy shooters then the emotion isn't the same.

Other point is the possible influence of videogames because some players could want "modern" firearms saying these are magic ray guns.