Lifetime boycott of D&D-branded products?

Incenjucar

Legend
Yes, Hasbro's current actions tick me off. They are starting to behave like Disney or Apple when it comes to 3PP.

I haven't boycotted Disney or Apple. I also haven't boycotted companies that have in their history much, much worse things than this situation. I am assuming that if you are going to boycott D&D you have already boycotted Nike, Walmart, Amazon, every petroleum company, DeBeers, every major media company, all the major agribusinesses...
I've been boycotting Nestle for at least 16 years, and Disney and Walmart for several... :p

We all have our limits of what we can give up, we don't have to be all-or-nothing.
 

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Weiley31

Legend
Well, at the moment, my 5E funds, once the card is paid off, is going to be used to get mostly 3pp stuff and other games at this point.

I'll probably skip the Heist book. Complete jumping of ship or no more official books? Well, I've invested too much money into 5e products at this point so it will probably be a pick and choose type deal.
 

Yes, Hasbro's current actions tick me off. They are starting to behave like Disney or Apple when it comes to 3PP.
I can name a lot of companies that do shady things...
I haven't boycotted Disney or Apple. I also haven't boycotted companies that have in their history much, much worse things than this situation. I am assuming that if you are going to boycott D&D you have already boycotted Nike, Walmart, Amazon, every petroleum company, DeBeers, every major media company, all the major agribusinesses...
yeah, this is my thoughts too
 

Charlaquin

Goblin Queen (She/Her/Hers)
I can name a lot of companies that do shady things...

yeah, this is my thoughts too
Look, if you don’t want to take part in the boycott, fine, that’s your decision. But “I don’t boycott all these other companies, so it would be inconsistent of me to boycott WotC” is a deeply unflattering excuse. We all have different thresholds for what we’re willing to boycott a company over, if this doesn’t meet yours, just own that instead of calling everyone who does decide to boycott hypocrites because they have to drive a car to get to and from work.
 

Look, if you don’t want to take part in the boycott, fine, that’s your decision. But “I don’t boycott all these other companies, so it would be inconsistent of me to boycott WotC” is a deeply unflattering excuse.
It's not an excuse. It's an understanding of how the world works. I'm not burning my books or my Iphone. I will argue for things to get better but I am not going to destroy my ability to do things.
We all have different thresholds for what we’re willing to boycott a company over, if this doesn’t meet yours, just own that instead of calling everyone who does decide to boycott hypocrites because they have to drive a car to get to and from work.
I didn't call you a hypocrite... you are putting words in my mouth
 

How about a ‘lifetime boycott’ from purchasing new D&D-branded products? (If I were to take this up, I’d still allow myself to pick up used copies.)

Such an action could be complementary with switching to A5E / PF2 / 13A / (insert you favorite Black Flag game system here).

I’m at work right now, but I look forward to canceling my DnDBeyond subscription when I get home.
No
 

I have enough D&D to last several lifetimes. So if OGL1.1 goes forward, I'm out -- no more purchases or brans support.

I'll buy other RPG products, and play the old D&D stuff I have. I'd been meaning to break out the old BX stuff, anyway ...
 

Well, at the moment, my 5E funds, once the card is paid off, is going to be used to get mostly 3pp stuff and other games at this point.

I'll probably skip the Heist book. Complete jumping of ship or no more official books? Well, I've invested too much money into 5e products at this point so it will probably be a pick and choose type deal.

If this isn't resolved by the release of Heist I could see sales TANKING hard.
 

Vaalingrade

Legend
I can name a lot of companies that do shady things...

yeah, this is my thoughts too
I just hope one day my company can be so large and powerful that it gives my employees the same essential dread about how their mere bid for existence by making enough money to not starve and die exposed to the elements is making the world a worse place that the one I work for now has given me.

Really give back to the community.
 

Charlaquin

Goblin Queen (She/Her/Hers)
It's not an excuse. It's an understanding of how the world works. I'm not burning my books or my Iphone. I will argue for things to get better but I am not going to destroy my ability to do things.
Nobody is asking anyone to burn their books or their iPhones. You do whatever you feel is right for you, that’s all that can be expected of anyone.
I didn't call you a hypocrite... you are putting words in my mouth
You gave other companies you don’t boycott as your reasoning for deciding not to boycott WotC. The implication there is that others who do boycott WotC and don’t boycott those other companies are being inconsistent.
 

Sabathius42

Bree-Yark
If I had a magic act that included a tiger...and eventually that tiger bit me...I shouldn't be surprised it did so and I shouldn't hate the tiger for doing what's in it's nature.

Tiger=big corporation

Bite= care more about making money than anything else

As long as DnD is controlled by a major corporation (and I can't see it ever not getting out of that status ever again) "the game" only serves as a vehicle to make money. In a world where MTV doesn't show music videos, it's entirely possible DnD is no longer a tabletop roleplaying game.

Your fear of a bad outcome should have started when Hasbro originally got involved, not just now.
 

Seule

Explorer
Your fear of a bad outcome should have started when Hasbro originally got involved, not just now.
Trust me, I had fears back then too. They have now been born out. It took much, much longer than expected.

In this case, it's a boycott of Hasbro for me (not that that changes a lot), if WotC somehow goes independant again we'll talk. :)
 

Parmandur

Book-Friend
LOL, no. I'm probably still going to buy the next book, if we ever hear anything about it.

If I did Beyond, I probably would have cancelled the autopurchase today in solidarity, but I buy books.
 

Sabathius42

Bree-Yark
Trust me, I had fears back then too. They have now been born out. It took much, much longer than expected.

In this case, it's a boycott of Hasbro for me (not that that changes a lot), if WotC somehow goes independant again we'll talk. :)
Only with your reply do I realize I used the word you in my statement. It was meant as a general you for all readers, not a direct reply to you the individual.

My apologies, that comes across as rude and wasn't meant to be.

That being said, I am not going to boycott since I have already phased out my purchasing of most WotC 5e content as I have no interest in cosign settings or adventures.

I buy the heck out of Kobold Press so it will be sad to see that divide happen.
 





My wife and I own an Audi. Audi used Nazi slave labor during WWII. Of all the companies I could boycott and all the reasons I should boycott, there is a very long line ahead of Hasbro and Wizard of the Coast.
I mean, that's a bit a wild connection, given that was like 80 years ago (haha remember when it was only 50 years ago?). Whereas this is a thing happening now to an industry you're actually engaged with. You can't help people who've been dead for 100+ years, but you can help an industry that's actually operating now.

I'm sure there are more demanding companies to boycott, especially in the food and clothing and global oil industries, but "Audi killed people nearly a century ago!" is not a legit comparison. It is anything but "for real".
 

I'm sure with about 2 minutes of googling I can find an example of a well known Western company who's products (or components) are manufactured with Chinese prison labor. The point stands. The WotC situation is s--tty, but it's not a literal crime against humanity. Regardless, we all get to choose where to focus our outrage.
 

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