Liv.Greyhawk: Sharks and Sahuagin in NYR DYV!!??!?!??
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Not really.
By the RAW creatures make no distinction between fresh and salt water.
IRL some species of shark are known to freely move from fresh to salt water. That would be even more widespread if they had intelligent amphibious allies to help them migrate.
If your hesitation is due to the fact that the Nyr Div is well travelled and close to civilization, then again IRL the Bull/Zambizi can be found in the Mississippi River - you can't get closer to civilization than that.
So, it's a bit of a stretch certainly, but I'm fine with sharks et. al. in the Nyr Div.
By the RAW creatures make no distinction between fresh and salt water.
IRL some species of shark are known to freely move from fresh to salt water. That would be even more widespread if they had intelligent amphibious allies to help them migrate.
If your hesitation is due to the fact that the Nyr Div is well travelled and close to civilization, then again IRL the Bull/Zambizi can be found in the Mississippi River - you can't get closer to civilization than that.
So, it's a bit of a stretch certainly, but I'm fine with sharks et. al. in the Nyr Div.
William Ronald
Explorer
Also, considering the role of magic on Oerth, it could be there are some gates from the Nyr Dyv to the Ocean. The fabled Islands of Woe were in the Nyr Dyv. Possibly an enterprising band of sahuaghin were able to find an old gate in one of Oerth's oceans and gain access to the Nyr Dyv. (Possibly the sahuaghin could arrange to have some sharks that can tolerate fresh water come with them.)
fafhrd
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William Ronald said:
The gate could even serve as a sort of salt water spring allowing heavily saline dependent creatures to thrive near the gate and only make the occasional foray into the fresher areas for food and raids. It might be a convenient explanation as to why the sahuagin haven't presented as large a problem as they might otherwise. Of course, over time the salinity balance could change and then, who knows....
Emirikol
Adventurer
It's not because of the population or travel, it's the fact that "The Nyr Dyv is the largest freshwater lake known to the peoples of the Flanaess."
The entry for Sahuagin says that they are allergic to fresh water and become fatigued. That's just someone not paying attention.
I think sharks swimming around in "Lake Superior" of Oerth is a clearly also a senseless sort of thing, however it could be justified with 'some' going up the Nesser for a while.
jh
The entry for Sahuagin says that they are allergic to fresh water and become fatigued. That's just someone not paying attention.
I think sharks swimming around in "Lake Superior" of Oerth is a clearly also a senseless sort of thing, however it could be justified with 'some' going up the Nesser for a while.
jh
sure its a mistake at least if the author had paid the slightest attention to the history of the oerth and nyr dyv and the representation of sahuagin in prior d&d editions.
as a previous poster noted, there is nothing intrinsically wrong with sharks in fresh water (there are sharks in lake nicaragua and the zambezi), its just that it doesnt match history
as a previous poster noted, there is nothing intrinsically wrong with sharks in fresh water (there are sharks in lake nicaragua and the zambezi), its just that it doesnt match history
