Pathfinder 1E Living Pathfinder

[HolyMan]

Yes the LPF judge is a Kobold he would need over three XP for each of his posts to "level up" LOL

Alright let's see if this works.

Edit: darn let me go back and url wrap it.

Edit deuce: There that did the trick anthing else you think we should do to get the word out?

HM

 

[grufflehead]

Edit deuce: There that did the trick anthing else you think we should do to get the word out?

HM

If you can figure out how to get that link into the status text... See that shortened url in mine? That actually points to the LPF group as well, it's just not clickable. If it could be made so, then I think that catches the eye much more than something at the foot of posts personally.

 

[HolyMan]

I'll work at it but then again that littke footnote is on 3,100 + posts.

HM

 

[Living PF Judge]

Ok changes made to character gene thread and could some posta placeholder in there or something to get it back to the first page please.

Also 21 members is great for are first month but I know there are still alot of potential LPF players maybe a recuritment drive is in order. Just post in any PF game you are in for everyone playing to go join the social group.

Once we have a Forum of are own then we will no who all to invite.

EDIT how did this account reach Goblin??? LOL

 

[James Jacobs]

Really?

Aw man! What's the rationale? I'd really like to do a quasi-unofficial tour of Golarion, frankly.

The primary reason is that we want to be able to keep some of what we do to Paizo. All of our rules, from the core rulebook and bestiary out to 99.99999% of the rules we release in our Adventure Paths, modules, and other lines of books are completely open (so far, the only two things that aren't open are two monsters from Adventure Paths that we only got permission to print once and not to make open content), so on the rules side of things, that content is more or less free for anyone to do anything they want with. Such as the (awesome!) project this thread is getting off the ground.

The world of Golarion, though, is something we're keeping closed so that we can control it and, frankly, profit from it. This consists of all the world flavor and proper nouns and background and such—everything that makes Golarion Golarion and not some other setting.

To use a movie analogy; think of the open rules as the machines you use to tell stories: these open rules are basically cameras and tools and resources you use to create a movie. The world of Golarion and the stories in it are the actual movies. By adding to the overall toolbox of the RPG industry by making our rules open, we enable a lot more folks to build "movies" of their own (after all... that's exactly what we did at Paizo with the 3.5 SRD), but we have to be able to make our own movies as well, and we don't really want to let many others make movies based on our stuff.

Put another way: As rewarding and fun as it was for me to get to build content and adventures and the like for the world of Greyhawk with articles like the Demonomicon, or adventures like Savage Tide or Age of Worms or Expedition to the Ruins of Greyhawk... it's MUCH more satisfying and rewarding to build a game world that we own ourselves and not one owned by another company.

By the same extension, using the Pathfinder rules to build your own world for a living campaign will be, I suspect, FAR more rewarding from just "visiting in Golarion."

 

[Maidhc O Casain]

Totally understandable, James - and really, definitely OK by me! You guys are definitely getting money out of me. I love Golarion, and scoop up at least the PDFs of almost everything that comes out of the Chronicles and Companion lines. (I subscribed to the AP fiction lines as well - can't wait!).

And it looks like we've got some great talent working on LPF - some of the stuff these guys are turning out is awesome!

 

[Walking Dad]

I'm now quite happy we do our own thing, but there is still something I didn't understand:

How would a Living Golarion game here reduce the profit for paizo? I would think it would have been a pretty good advertisement instead.

Note that we only wanted to link to the wiki and not "spoilering" the great setting. PathfinderWiki

Would a Living Golarion game be possible on the paizo website? IMHO, this is a rather different beast than Pathfinder Society.

 

[HolyMan]

Wow I'm in awe and humbled that someone in Paizo took out some time for us. Thanks greatly and thanks for the great game as well.

I think we have are world coming together nicely and Mr. Jacobs I hope you join the social group. If you find free time and want to build a country/organization or what not we can always use the help.

Thanks again and I can't wait to play the AP Mowgli, LOL

HM

 

[Steel_Wind]

I'm now quite happy we do our own thing, but there is still something I didn't understand:

How would a Living Golarion game here reduce the profit for paizo? I would think it would have been a pretty good advertisement instead.

Note that we only wanted to link to the wiki and not "spoilering" the great setting. PathfinderWiki

Would a Living Golarion game be possible on the paizo website? IMHO, this is a rather different beast than Pathfinder Society.

I'm not sure what the difference between the two is as you see it. Maybe you could clarify that? As I expect that factual underpinning may change the nature of this discussion completely.

I think the real point James was trying to make is that when it comes to publishing adventures set in Golarion, Paizo has not made that an open content free-for-all.

This is especially so, as when it comes to publishing short adventures set in Golarion, Paizo has made a rather dedicated move to supporting that sort of thing at three levels: The 96 page monthly AP; the bi-monthly publication of 32 page modules; and the monthly release of TWO Pathfinder Society Scenarios EVERY month.

That's a helluva lot of Golarion adventures. Through to the end of 2010, about 5,750 pages of Golarion adventures published by Paizo, actually.

They want to be able to continue to sell the smallest of those adventures, that PFS Scenarios at a rate approaching at least a breakeven point -- and if at all possible -- at a profit.

That would be more difficult to do if there was a competing source of free .pdf adventures set in Golarion on a regular publication schedule on some other website. I'm not sure a dynamic wiki changes that conclusion - but I'm not Paizo and I don't know exactly what you are planning here. Mayb it is compatible? *shrug*

I'm also quite sure that Pathfinder Society Scenarios primarily serve other goals that Paizo has as well, including:

(1) Networking between new players; (2)building brand loyalty; (3) recruiting existing RPG players into the Pathfinder system (4) increase sales of Paizo products at the FLGS (5) recruiting and developing new adventure authors.

If what you are proposing in this thread does not interfere with this at all - then Paizo would presumably be less hostile and perhaps, might even be supportive.

So what is it that Living Pathfinder is that PFS isn't? Can you help me out on describing what you mean a little more clearly? Is it just a wiki that decribes what happened in "X" land, as depicted in "Y" product, that others now need to take into account when running their own adventures set in LPF?

 

[Maidhc O Casain]

If what you are proposing in this thread does not interfere with this at all - then Paizo would presumably be less hostile and perhaps, might even be supportive.

Indications are that they're very supportive of Living Pathfinder - just not of using Golarion for the setting.

Is it just a wiki that decribes what happened in "X" land, as depicted in "Y" product, that others now need to take into account when running their own adventures set in LPF?

This.

As far as I know, there are no plans to publish anything from Living Pathfinder (.pdf or otherwise). I guess there's a 'line' somewhere that Living Worlds fall on one side of and a 'regular' online game using Golarion as a setting for an adventure the GM makes up crosses . . . I'm really not sure, though. Maybe Golarion's off limits for any online game that's not published by Paizo?

Maybe some clarification would be good. My only source for gaming is play by post - I'd hate to think that I couldn't run an adventure I made myself, or have one another GM made available to play, set in Golarion simply because it's not practical for me to play face to face.

Again, this is more clarification for the future than for LPF, as we're already moving well on our own setting and don't have any plans to use Golarion for that.