Maxperson
Morkus from Orkus
Perhaps a different "Kang" has already won.
Loki! (spoiler thread)
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And is trying to make sure no other Kangs arise.....
Enevhar Aldarion
Hero
No, like the others said, go back and watch that part again, at about the 28-minute mark. The Threshold is crossed, there is thunder, the timeline is shown starting to branch, Majors keeps talking, then Loki and Sylvie fight. The branching started before Loki is sent back.
I feel the same way about the finale as I did the whole series....there were parts I absolutely loved, and yet, something I can't put my finger on leaves me feeling like I like it less than I should given how much of it I love. I think (anecdotal evidence being my only evidence) fans of the comics like it more than those of us who only experience the MCU through tv / movies.
At the scene at the end, I noticed several "floors" with different letters. My assumption was that this represented different versions of the TVA stacked on top of each other.... but I'll have to go back to the first episode as maybe it was always designed that way.
So looking at the show as a hole, one thing taht is never really explained is why they bring in variants in the first place for judgement. Are there variants that actually win their day in court? Because otherwise it seems far more efficient to just prune them as soon as they are found....especially when you consider that Sylvie escaped during her trial which started her whole arc.
At first i thought maybe that was the Machinations of Kang who Remained....after all he wanted Loki and Sylvie both....but there were other people being judged as well.
also there is still the question of the "temptation". Kang who Remained also offered them a chance to return to the timeline with amazing powers and benefits. Was the point so that both of them could see they didn't want that kind of power? Was it a test and Kang didn't know as much as he let on?
There is also an interesting line from Kang when they first call him the "One that Remains". He says "oh is she still calling me that?"...she refers to Miss Minutes. Now this could simply be polite conversation.... but it could also mean that Miss Minutes has a bit of freedom outside of Kang's omniscience.
MarkB
Legend
Yeah, I've enjoyed all the characters, and a lot of the basic concepts are great, but it doesn't come together into a satisfying conclusion - and regardless of whether it's getting a second season, I'd have liked a conclusion.
The idea of someone who's so omniscient that he basically just allowed Loki and Sylvie to rock up and end him is deeply unsatisfying in the context of them as variants and gods of mischief. These are the spanners in the works, the ones the TVA have to keep in check lest they knock the whole plan off course. Making them a predictable part of the plan robs the plot of any drama.
And the whole thing about Loki and Sylvie getting together being the thing that creates the greatest variance ever - I guess that was covered at the end of the previous episode when they enchanted the smoke monster, but it didn't feel satisfactorily explored, and now, with the timelines all fractured, it seems like we're past the point where it would matter.
IF I was the showrunner, I'd have Kang the Conqueror win, and be using the TVA to prune Lokis and other Kangs (remember, I will never read the comics....so no idea what the story is there), and have Loki team up with other Lokis to save other Kang timelines to keep that Kang from being a tyrant over all the timelines. Or something like that. I want a lot more fun/variant Lokis next season.
Dire Bare
Legend
The TVA court system is very much depicted as a "star court" . . . in other words, no, variants are not ever judged "innocent" and returned to their timelines. The assumption of the TVA authorities is guilt.
It's hard to tell whether the "temptation" offered by Miss Minutes was genuine, a test, a manipulation . . . all of the above . . . I think while Kang bragged about knowing exactly what was going to happen up until the "threshold" . . . he was aware that the Loki's could still act on their variant natures and do something unexpected.
Time travel man, it's a head trip.
I think Miss Minutes is exactly what she appears to be, a sentient AI with her own free will . . . who serves Kang Who Remains.
You know, how about we hold off on accusing folks of lying, and instead remember that the situation has changed over time - when it was said, it may have been true, and is no longer.
I take it as an implication that "the sacred timeline" itself has changed.
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