D&D 5E Lolth's Warrior, Way of the Drow Book 3 (Drizzt Novel)

[Henadic Theologian]

Im assuming you mean that she prefers to go "Skyclad". Very puritan thing to be upset about, but i get it. I mean not like WotC couldn't just put clothes on her. She's not ALWAYS naked.

Goddess of Elven Hippies, the setting has it's roots in the 60's, peace and free love.

 

[Scribe]

Im assuming you mean that she prefers to go "Skyclad". Very puritan thing to be upset about, but i get it. I mean not like WotC couldn't just put clothes on her. She's not ALWAYS naked.

Thats my assumption yes. Either they are afraid to have the 'good' drow be followers of a nudist, or they didnt want it to be down to 'a god did it' anymore, and get away from that all together.

Then again, Giff love guns because of their god...so who knows what they are doing.

 

[Weiley31]

Ah, so Drizzt is about to free the Drow.

The whole plotline was way too easy for me to ignore, but the less I say on it the better.

He will end up freeing the drow, some will cling to Lolth anyway, and those will remain the 'bad drow' that need to exist, while a large (majority) will follow Drizzt to freedom from her evil ways.

And the messiah complex of this character will essentially be complete.

Tbf they've been hinting at this since around 1996.

Basic main character/mary suing 101.

On a serious note, if it didn't happen before in the previous novels, it was only a matter of time before Drizzt EVENTUALLY would get around to do that.

The real question, I'm wondering, if somehow Lolth is gonna change or if she's gonna get fractured/destroyed because of it all.

 

[Weiley31]

Wait for the sequels.

Children of the Drow
Drow Messiah
God Emperor of the Drow
Heretics of the Drow
Chapterhouse Drow

And my personal favorite in the series: Drow and Loving It!

 

[Zardnaar]

Basic main character/mary suing 101.

On a serious note, if it didn't happen before in the previous novels, it was only a matter of time before Drizzt EVENTUALLY would get around to do that.

The real question, I'm wondering, if somehow Lolth is gonna change or if she's gonna get fractured/destroyed because of it all.

Well the last great Drizzt book was 1999, the last decent Drow book was around 2003.

I'm sure RAS will do another wonderful novel in execution. Lolth getting overthrown in Menzo makes some amount of sense or isn't coming out of nowhere assuming it even happens.

 

[Henadic Theologian]

Well the last great Drizzt book was 1999, the last decent Drow book was around 2003.

I'm sure RAS will do another wonderful novel in execution. Lolth getting overthrown in Menzo makes some amount of sense or isn't coming out of nowhere assuming it even happens.

I don't think Lolth will get overthrown in her most iconic city, I think it's more likely the Rebel factions go into exiles. I mean what is Lolth and what will Drizzt novels be without it's City of Spiders?

If the Lolthites are desperate enough they will call on reinforcements from other Drow cities, and the Abyss/Demonweb pits.

 

[DarkCrisis]

Well the last great Drizzt book was 1999, the last decent Drow book was around 2003.

I'm sure RAS will do another wonderful novel in execution. Lolth getting overthrown in Menzo makes some amount of sense or isn't coming out of nowhere assuming it even happens.

I pretty much stopped reading the series when 4th ed's 100 years later trash hooked Drizzt up with new friends. Of course he got his old friends back when 5E came around and WotC tried to unfudge what they did (most of the damage is still done though).

And now Drizzt is an athiest and kind of a jerk. As of the first book in the new trilogy I read.

Honestly, time to let Drizzt retire and write Zaknafein novels. At least he's kind of interesting in a "Drow out of time" sense.

 

[aco175]

Like what @Scribe mentioned earlier, Hasbro ties this with the new rules of drow being any alignment and not just evil. Wonder if the books have the orcs join with them and all hold hands.

 

[Zardnaar]

I pretty much stopped reading the series when 4th ed's 100 years later trash hooked Drizzt up with new friends. Of course he got his old friends back when 5E came around and WotC tried to unfudge what they did (most of the damage is still done though).

And now Drizzt is an athiest and kind of a jerk. As of the first book in the new trilogy I read.

Honestly, time to let Drizzt retire and write Zaknafein novels. At least he's kind of interesting in a "Drow out of time" sense.

Last one I read was some sort of Gauntlgrym novel with vampiric dwarf. It was bad.

Thought I may have been getting old so reread some older stuff and still enjoyed it. Not all of it and it wasn't all D&D related eg David Eddings.

 

[Ruin Explorer]

Goddess of Elven Hippies, the setting has it's roots in the 60's, peace and free love.

Which is kind of funny given Greenwood is younger than one thinks, at 63, so it wasn't even born until 1959, and thus was a little kid in the '60s.

 

[Bedrockgames]

I don't think Lolth will get overthrown in her most iconic city, I think it's more likely the Rebel factions go into exiles. I mean what is Lolth and what will Drizzt novels be without it's City of Spiders?

If the Lolthites are desperate enough they will call on reinforcements from other Drow cities, and the Abyss/Demonweb pits.

I am not caught up on the recent books, but remember the Dark Elf trilogy. Menzoberranzan probably wouldn't be the most geamable place if it were made into a just city ruled by Drizzt. At least it would be only as gameable as any other city, not the terrifying place it functions as in the setting, so I think this sort of outcome seems more likely: just more factions of Drow, with many in exile or forming a rival city nearby.

 

[Bedrockgames]

Which is kind of funny given Greenwood is younger than one thinks, at 63, so it wasn't even born until 1959, and thus was a little kid in the '60s.

I'm sure he absorbed a lot of it by other means. I think also the term 60s is usually not used in the strictly literal sense (at least here in the US it isn't). My father, was very much a product of the 60s, always say the 60s were really from something like 67 to 73 (and her sometimes goes up or down a year on either end). Greenwood would have been 10 when the 60s were at the peak? and probably experienced a lot of 60s culture as a teenager in the 70s. I was born in the mid-70s and the 60s were pretty inescapable culturally. All of the conflict, all of the culture, all of the achievements sort of loomed into the Regan era. And a lot of us had parents who were hippies from that time. I am in the states though, I don't know what it was like for Greenwood in Canada at the time.

 

[Ruin Explorer]

I'm sure he absorbed a lot of it by other means. I think also the term 60s is usually not used in the strictly literal sense (at least here in the US it isn't). My father, was very much a product of the 60s, always say the 60s were really from something like 67 to 73 (and her sometimes goes up or down a year on either end). Greenwood would have been 10 when the 60s were at the peak? and probably experienced a lot of 60s culture as a teenager in the 70s. I was born in the mid-70s and the 60s were pretty inescapable culturally. All of the conflict, all of the culture, all of the achievements sort of loomed into the Regan era. And a lot of us had parents who were hippies from that time. I am in the states though, I don't know what it was like for Greenwood in Canada at the time.

Likely, given there's a lot of "woodsy polyamory" in Greenwood's work, which I think is more of a '70s thing than '60s. Like the maybe ideas developed in the '60s and but they actually took root in the '70s.

It's definitely true that in the US and to some extent the UK that '60s culture kept rolling through the '70s even in some cases into the '80s. If you were 19 in 1969 you were only 39 in 1989 so probably still had a lot of the same ideas. A lot of the most "hippie" schools got set up in the late '70s and early '80s I note, as more aging hippies started raising kids and so on. I went to one of them which was set up in '78 by the headmistress when her daughter was born (I was in the same class as the daughter).

 

[Weiley31]

And now Drizzt is an athiest

Considering what a deity did to him and his people, it's a bit understandable if his attitude to the gods weren't exactly in a positive view.

 

[DarkCrisis]

Considering what a deity did to him and his people, it's a bit understandable if his attitude to the gods weren't exactly in a positive view.

It comes off more of the end goal of 4th Ed changes.

Orcs are good! But Drizzts god said they weren’t! 5th Ed. Oop NM Orcs are bad… was the god right? Well seems they are good. So my god is insane?

Keeping in mind his goddess basically saved his life and not to mention kept the souls of his friends safe until they could be resurrected.

Yet he still questions her guidance. Which wouldn’t even be a thing if WotC hadn’t messed with the fricken time line in the first place and just stuck with the idea that hey Orcs can be good. All that cause led a crisis of faith in Drizzt that he’s still dealing with by basically ignoring it and just trying to be Zen at the monastery

 

[GreyLord]

Like what @Scribe mentioned earlier, Hasbro ties this with the new rules of drow being any alignment and not just evil. Wonder if the books have the orcs join with them and all hold hands.

That sort of happened some while back already. The Orcs attack in the Hunter's Blade's Trilogy but it's more because they are un-understood Klingons rather than traditional Orcs. There is a lot of orcs and people who die. Eventually everyone gets to being at peace and holding hands and respecting each other and getting married...etc.

This was before 4e even, it was in the era of 3e when a lot of people wanted orcs as PC's or something like that.

 

[GreyLord]

I am not caught up on the recent books, but remember the Dark Elf trilogy. Menzoberranzan probably wouldn't be the most geamable place if it were made into a just city ruled by Drizzt. At least it would be only as gameable as any other city, not the terrifying place it functions as in the setting, so I think this sort of outcome seems more likely: just more factions of Drow, with many in exile or forming a rival city nearby.

What is even crazier is that Menzoberranzan was just a Drow City in the beginning. It was not the largest nor the greatest of them. It was just one of them that threatened the North.

 

[Sacrosanct]

An uprising the city won’t forget? Did they already forget about the last one that nearly burned the whole thing to the ground decades ago in War of the Spider Queen? In drow terms, that was just like, yesterday in the timeline of their perception of time lol

 

[Zardnaar]

An uprising the city won’t forget? Did they already forget about the last one that nearly burned the whole thing to the ground decades ago in War of the Spider Queen? In drow terms, that was just like, yesterday in the timeline of their perception of time lol

More like a decade or two.

Maybe 2-4 decades since a lot of Drow don't die of old age.

WotSQ equivalent of Drow Nu Metal.

Anyway the premise of the story isn't bad by itself I'm sure RAS will botch the execution of it.

1989 Renegade Drizzt is on the surface.

1991 Drizzt flees to the surface, other Drow Gods exist. Drow of the Underdark.

1992 we knew Vharaun was undermining Lolth. Menzo boxed set.

1996 Hinting at males be less than happy en masse. Daughter of the Drow

Early 2000 WotSQ.

They've essentially spent decades building up to this so either way (Lolths rule in Menzo ends or doesnt or even city destroyed) it makes some amount of sense.