Heretic of The Seventh Circle
All of that is fine for fantasy gods in general. In D&D the gods of good literally define and exemplify for mortals what good is. They aren’t just “good from a human perspective”, they are Good. Objectively, and universally. They can be flawed, sure, but when they speak on what is Good and what is Evil, they are either correct, or the cosmology entire is false.The thing you have to keep in mind (and yes I know this has been talked to death in other threads in the past and a lot of people don't agree and never will) is you have to see Fantasy gods like the Greek and Norse and etc Gods. They are powerful beings with wants and desires and personalities. With their own prejudices and desires etc etc. Take the label "good god" and thinking of it like a modern real world major god who's "all good all the time" isn't a fair match up.
Heck some of the Faerun gods where literally mortals who ascended but they know have to play by certain rules. Heck according to BG3 even Mystra likes to come down and lay some pipe, doesn't she have a Weave to manage?
Fantasy tropes say you can be a "god of good but goblins can kiss my divine butt." You are either going to "believe in magic" in these settings (as it where) or you aren't.
If I have to google it, that makes my point quite well, pal.Google is your friend, chum.
Powers aren’t all gods, though. Titans specifically aren’t gods.From page 33 of Vortex of Madness: "The Titans should be considered intermediate powers."
Just in case you're not aware, "powers" was a synonym used for "gods" in a lot of AD&D.
Lol in that description sure. In others it is amorphous, in other she is feminine.Note the listing for Moander's presentation on page 120 of Faiths & Avatars: "Moander could manifest as the intangible image of a rotting hulk that resembled a giant, floating, disembodied male human head..." So he was clearly male-presenting.
Wotc era D&D isnt flexible at all about it. A demon or slaad lord isn’t a god.That's iffy; D&D has traditionally been very flexible as to whether or not demon lords and slaad lords are gods or not (e.g. see the note on page 90 of the AD&D 1E Deities & Demigods).
Well this guarantees this will be my last reply to you. I’ve very little respect for people who behave like this.
Also Vecna ain’t a god.
So you don’t know what nuance is. Not the flex you seem to think it is, bud.
That's understandable, given how little lore you seem to know.
Please quote where I claimed there were none.Right, so in other words, you complained that there were none, and when you were shown to be laughably wrong, you hastily backtracked and made it about recognizability rather than whether or not there were any.
Feel free to actually explain to the rest of the class why you think that 3 gods, only 1 of which is both masculine and of any importance at all (seriously who gives a damn about deities that haven’t been in a print product for multiple editions and decades and even people in thier 30’s and 40’s probably don’t know exist? Lol like congrats on being the most pedantic person in the room, I guess?) makes what I actually said “laughably wrong”?
While you’re at it, please explain how a question challenging the state of a thing in the present tense can be proven “laughably wrong” by a bunch of pedantic and questionable examples from decades ago, most of whom can’t even be assumed to be part of the game anymore.