Lord of the Oscars

[Zappo]

My point mostly was that they won awards for photography/cinematopgraphy for scenes that were nominated for the same awards in the past two years.

Consider that the awards are for the best of the year in the given field. It is pretty reasonable that movies with the same quality of, eg, special effects, may get an award or not: it doesn't depend on the movie alone, but also on their competition.

 

[TiQuinn]

I thought it was great that Return of the King swept and all, but wow....what a boring show! Aside from Jack Black, Will Ferrell, and Adrien Brody's jokes, the thing was painful to watch. And somebody please inform Billy Crystal that he isn't nearly as funny as he thinks he is.

 

[Hand of Evil]

How about Billy's introduction, Return of the Host!

 

[kingpaul]

What I love about the 11 wins is that RotK won all the categories it was nominated in. The other films with 11 wins were only 11/12 (Ben Hur) and 11/14 (Titanic). Only RotK is 100% gold!

< devil's advocate>
Another way of looking at it though is that RotK is not as good as these other 2 because it didn't get as many nominations.
< /devil's advocate>

 

[Barendd Nobeard]

< devil's advocate>
Another way of looking at it though is that RotK is not as good as these other 2 because it didn't get as many nominations.
< /devil's advocate>

Nope. No way. No siree, Bob. The others were just pretenders--if they were really good, they would have been 100% gold, too!

Get thee behind me, < devil's advocate >!!

 

[Brown Jenkin]

What awards, if any, did Lost in Translation get? I thought it was a better movie itself than Return of the King, though the whole Trilogy deserved to win at least one best picture.

Lost in Translation's problem was that they had to go up against a monster and a lifetime achievement award. I'm not sure when it started but at some point they started handing out awards to make up for past snubs. This year Peter Jackson got his make up awards for the entire trilogy (and well deserved). This caused Sophia Coppala to get left out. This however boosts her chances next time she is nominated unless there is yet a bigger make up award that needs to be given out that year if so she will be a lock for her third try. Same goes for Bill Murry. Sean Penn was handed a lifetime achievement award for Mystic River. Bill Murry was a sentimental favorite of many and now that he has lost he is in better possition for next time. As with Sophia, he will likely win next time nd is pretty much Garunteed on his third try if he doesn't get it his second try.

Which awards did you think it got snubbed for? You say LotR deserved best picture. Do you argue that Sophia is more deserving as Director than PJ? Bill Murry might have been snubbed but that is not the fault of LotR.

 

[Desdichado]

I'm happy to see it sweep, as it will hopefully let studios and viewers know that scifi and fantasy movies, that are good, are just as deserving and serious as other movies.

I think the box office returns are already doing that just fine for the studios. Although the studios still have to figure out exactly why Lord of the Rings was really good and successful and Beastmaster II wasn't, and frankly, I don't think most studio people understand that difference.

 

[Desdichado]

However, I do admit....and this is going to sound disloyal, but I don't agree with the "best editing" win. Although the editing was pretty good....but in RotK, I thought it was the poorest of the three editing jobs. IMHO.

I agree. Return of the King was the choppiest of the three.

Although one day, when I can't even remember what the theatrical version was like vs. the extended editions, I guess it won't matter.

 

[reiella]

The Academy instituted a rule awhile back (I believe when the second and third Back to the Future films were shot simultaneously) that if the nominating committee feels that nominated work for films that were shot at the same time but released in different years was not substantially or significantly different from each other, then it could chose not to nominate the work after the first time.

I believe that is why TTT and RotK were not nominated for cinematography after FotR won, and why TTT wasn't nominated for original score.

That I did not know, and at least it slightly reassuring. Doesn't hinder my feeling that many of the categories that I saw LotR win before switching to Adult Swim were items they were nominated for in the past.

And Zappo gives another part of my frustration at the situation (After all, just split your movie into multi-year release parts so you increase your chances of airing in a 'bad movie year'). I might just be bitter because it's cool to 'dislike' a popular franchise, I'm not sure yet.

 

[CrusaderX]

I'm surprised that nobody mentioned Michael Moore being squashed by an oliphant. Next to the awards sweep, that was the highlight of the night.