Fiery James
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devilbat said:
I thought what he said was:
"If the tables were turned, I'd watch you die."
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Lost 11-10-04
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I thought what he said was:
"If the tables were turned, I'd watch you die."
- James
Mark
CreativeMountainGames.com
I tire of the overuse of the "Red-Herring-Flashbacks-thru-Surprise-Character-Twist-Reveal" convention. If most of the character background reveals were done in a more straightforward fashion, I'd enjoy the clever ones more. As for now, it's become almost cliche. I'd hate to think that the entirety of the show is going to be based on week after week of that same formula.
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Mark
CreativeMountainGames.com
BelenUmeria said:
I'm not following you. You don't agree that it is what they are doing, for the most part, as I assert? Or you aren't growing tired of it even though you see what is, in my opinion, growing tiresome? Certainly one episode being, in your opinion, "fairly straightforward" doesn't exactly refute my point, does it?
Perhaps you could expand on your opinion a bit?
True Belen but Charlies has been the only staright forward episode. I kind of agree with Mark. I don't think it is old yet but it is going to get old to me. I think Charlies story was well told and as good as the others with out being twisty turning. I think they can tell stories with the twist up front then explain why itis a twist. I mean they could show Sawyer leaving the house and stopping the scam and work backwards just to do it differently. Beating a formula that works to death won't help. Got to mix it up as well.
Also as my wife said and I agree (somewhat) Locke's the Devil. She thinks he is the temptor type character manipulating things behind the scenes. I mean the whole split between beach and caves has to do with him in a way. Just a theory.
later
Also as my wife said and I agree (somewhat) Locke's the Devil. She thinks he is the temptor type character manipulating things behind the scenes. I mean the whole split between beach and caves has to do with him in a way. Just a theory.
later
Ambrus
Explorer
A few personal observations
A few personal observations about the episode:
The scene between Locke and Sayid seemed strange to me. I wasn't even aware that Locke knew about Sayid's plan. Also, his suggestion that Sawyer could have jury-rigged a slow fuse to lauch his bottle rocket at the precise moment after both other rockets had been launched seemed outlandish to me. Jurry rigging a slow-fuse with cigarettes isn't all that complicated, but improvising a precise time-delay fuse set to go off at 5:01 pm, for instance, is ridiculous. Either Locke didn't understand the precise nature of Sayid's plan, has no idea what he's talking about or he was purposefully misleading Sayid (who he knows hates and suspects Sawyer anyways).
I supose, now knowing that Locke was aware of Sayid's plan, that Locke could have been the one to have whacked Sayid, though I'm not yet counting out Boone.
Did anyone else notice that the first time we see Claire this episode, she's writing in what appears to be a lined note-book; the only person I can recall ever being shown to do so. This would seem to be a good indication of who the author of the Lost online journal is. I have to go re-read it in it's entirety to see whether the entries match her actions.
Upon going over the online diary, it's pretty clear that the author isn't Claire because she's mentioned by name a few times in the third person. The author is almost certaintly a woman. Of the main characters, I'd say that Shannon is the only likely candidate, though she doesn't mention anything about launching the bottle rocket or about nearly choking to death from asthma. I suspect that the author is simply one of the nameless survivors on the island. In fact, the author actually refers to another nameless survivor, Larry, who asked her out.
With his awed comment: "that was like... a Jedi moment..." it is now official; Bailey is a Geek like us.
A few personal observations about the episode:
The scene between Locke and Sayid seemed strange to me. I wasn't even aware that Locke knew about Sayid's plan. Also, his suggestion that Sawyer could have jury-rigged a slow fuse to lauch his bottle rocket at the precise moment after both other rockets had been launched seemed outlandish to me. Jurry rigging a slow-fuse with cigarettes isn't all that complicated, but improvising a precise time-delay fuse set to go off at 5:01 pm, for instance, is ridiculous. Either Locke didn't understand the precise nature of Sayid's plan, has no idea what he's talking about or he was purposefully misleading Sayid (who he knows hates and suspects Sawyer anyways).
I supose, now knowing that Locke was aware of Sayid's plan, that Locke could have been the one to have whacked Sayid, though I'm not yet counting out Boone.
Did anyone else notice that the first time we see Claire this episode, she's writing in what appears to be a lined note-book; the only person I can recall ever being shown to do so. This would seem to be a good indication of who the author of the Lost online journal is. I have to go re-read it in it's entirety to see whether the entries match her actions.
Upon going over the online diary, it's pretty clear that the author isn't Claire because she's mentioned by name a few times in the third person. The author is almost certaintly a woman. Of the main characters, I'd say that Shannon is the only likely candidate, though she doesn't mention anything about launching the bottle rocket or about nearly choking to death from asthma. I suspect that the author is simply one of the nameless survivors on the island. In fact, the author actually refers to another nameless survivor, Larry, who asked her out.
With his awed comment: "that was like... a Jedi moment..." it is now official; Bailey is a Geek like us.
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WizarDru
Adventurer
I don't really think they've used that many, honestly.Mark said:
Jack and Charley were both straight-forward, iirc. There really wasn't any twist to Kate's either, per se. There were some fundemental details not fully revealed, but that's not the same as a red herring...that's just a lack of information. Sun and Jin played out their biggest suprise at the front: that he was originally a humble waiter. Her ability to speak English was telegraphed from a ways off, I think. And it was clear they both understood English, even if they didn't reveal that she could speak it, as well. Charley couldn't have been more straight-forward.
So the only real 'twists' to the flashbacks were Locke's disability, and Sawyer's true identity, IMHO. There are a few secrets we're not privelege to, yet, like what Jack did to his father (I have my suspicions, as I've mentioned them before) and what Kate's crime was. But again, no red herrings that I recall. The biggest red herring about Kate was that she was the criminal (well, the one who had been arrested, anyhow, we've got two people who clearly also apply to that title, or more depending on how you judge such things).
fett527
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I love this show. Great characters.
My complaint right now is toom much character exposition. It seems like the mysteriousness and fear of the Island has taken too much of a back seat to the characters. The character exposition needs to happen, but I wish the Island would be more of a focus soon. (Maybe next episode from the looks of it.) I feel like everyone's forgot about the large creature type noises from when they first landed. No one is wondering what's happened to them?
My complaint right now is toom much character exposition. It seems like the mysteriousness and fear of the Island has taken too much of a back seat to the characters. The character exposition needs to happen, but I wish the Island would be more of a focus soon. (Maybe next episode from the looks of it.) I feel like everyone's forgot about the large creature type noises from when they first landed. No one is wondering what's happened to them?
Fast Learner
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Thank goodness someone finally set out (even if it was for other reasons) to determine if they're even on a freakin' island! Of course, based on next week's previews, we still won't technically know, but at least someone's trying.
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