Lost 2/23/07 Season Finale w/ spoilers

[DonTadow]

I think its pretty safe to say that if charlie wanted to get out he would have gotten out. So why all the debate about what she should have or could have done to get out.

It's one of two things, the writers decided to screw up the whole episode by having htis crazy death scene or
Charlie wanted to die. He prepared himself to die. He had prepared himself hte last episode. Charlie's logic is that the dreams are a. b. c and if a doesn't happen c won't happen. As far as charlie knows, this has been true so far. The only time desmond's vision didn't come true, was the time desmond saved charlie.

Look at that scene. Charlie was not trying to escape, even before the hatch. He was getting himself ready to die.

 

[Cthulhudrew]

Look at that scene. Charlie was not trying to escape, even before the hatch. He was getting himself ready to die.

I think he was prepared to die, certainly, but by the end of the episode, up until the point where Mikhail showed up again, it looked more like he believed he was no longer going to do so.

 

[Sir Brennen]

Look at that scene. Charlie was not trying to escape, even before the hatch. He was getting himself ready to die.

Totally agree. When they had the code I think there was a moment he thought his destiny was once again thwarted, but when he saw Mikhail at the porthole with the grenade, I'm sure he thought "So, this is it." He was already prepared to die. He wasn't thinking about trying to get out of it. He did have the presence of mind to prevent Des from dying with him when he closed the hatch. Then, as a realistic afterthought "Oh, crap! I need to tell him about the boat!"

While I agree with Mr. Harlan's assessment about a lot of writing today, and even applied to many events on Lost, I don't think this was one of those moments. The major complaint seems to be "That was stupid! That's not what I would do!" when the real question is, what would Charlie do, given what went on before, his current state of mind and beliefs. And the writers stayed true to that.

Learn to have a little empathy, people

 

[BraveSirRobin]

I think he was prepared to die, certainly, but by the end of the episode, up until the point where Mikhail showed up again, it looked more like he believed he was no longer going to do so.

Because it hadn't flooded. Once it started to flood he did what he felt he had to do.

I was actually understanding of Charlie's death and glad that it happened. After all the build up of Desmonds foresight, it would have been silly if they let him escape. The only wierd thing was that the vision was almost self fullfuling. If he hadn't been told about the dreams needing to be carried out as seen, he might have made a greater attempt at escaping. Then again, if he hadn't prepared himself for death, he might not have been as courageous in the situation.

The whole affair was heroic tragedy.

 

[Templeton580]

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[Taelorn76]

I understand Charlie's death and can see why he did it. My gripe is completely selfish, because I liked Charlie's character and I didn't want to see him die. I wish he had made an attempt to escape, but his death was well done and fit the character and story.

 

[Hand of Evil]

The moon pool was 70 meters down, according to Sayid's schematic from the Flame. Screencap

200+ Feet! That is hard to buy, maybe 7.5 meters.

 

[Taelorn76]

I believe Mikhail said to the Looking Glass Ladies, "Ben told us you were on assignment in Canada."

Penny was on the island in Desmond's vision (for about as long as Jacob was onscreen); after Charlie failed to die it ended up being Naomi. Screencap So, yeah, that's why Charlie had to drown (or at least believed he did); so Claire and Aaron would get into a helicopter and be rescued.

The moon pool was 70 meters down, according to Sayid's schematic from the Flame. Screencap

Well aren't you just the fountain of screencap info

 

[Templeton580]

Captain Screencap, that's me.

 

[Cthulhudrew]

The moon pool was 70 meters down, according to Sayid's schematic from the Flame. Screencap

Charlie and Desmond both held their breath for a dive of over 200 feet! Holy Shmokes! Charlie's probably going to take a long time to drown, then.