LOST 3/30/05 Spoilers!

[Ambrus]

Yeah, if he doesn't learn that it exists so he can be SORELY tempted I will be disappointed.

Ah come on... They may as well have placed a huge blinking neon sign on the plane stating "CHARLIE'S PLOT DEVICE INSIDE!"

Locke: He was in a place crash!

Does it seem a odd to anyone but me that Boone survived a plane crash from thirty thousand feet with hardly a scratch on him but is near death after a plane crash of only thirty feet?

the "no survivors" over the radio

I suspect that this isn't as significant as it sounds; rather just a red herring. I don't believe the theory that the survivors actually died in the plane crash is right. The series creator himself admitted in a recent interview that the survivors aren't in some kind of afterlife purgatory. The survivors have been on the island for over a month now. Surely any search and rescue endeavours have long since ended. The plane has probably been reported as "lost at sea with no survivors". The radio operator who heard Boone's message simply responded with what he knew about the plane crash based on what he'd heard about it by watching the news reports: "there were no survivors". That's just my current opinion though.

My theory about the hatch is that it's the entrance to an old bomb shelter/monitoring station dating back to when the US was testing its early nuclear devices in the south pacific during the forties and fifties. It's probably where the old wire on the beach connects to and is part of the same military infrastructure on the island as the radio tower by the black rock. I wouldn't be surprised if Hurley's golf course turned out to be an overgrown airplane runway. Rousseau's hideout likewise seemed to be stocked with some old army surplus stuff. How this all ties into the island's supernatural elements is anyone's guess though.

 

[AuroraGyps]

The show got me again - given the last few episodes, I kept trying to spot the "pre-crash character connection of the week." After they set up that Locke was giving his father his kidney, I was SURE we'd learn that it was Jack's drunk surgeon father who caused Locke's paralysis on the operating table. No such luck. I love this show.

Well, I thought Locke's father was going to shoot Locke in the back while they were bird hunting, take him to a private doctor that was being well payed by the father, take the kidney, and leave Locke for dead... except Locke survives and is paralyzed after. After that turned out to not be the case, I thought Locke was going to get into a car crash after driving away from his dad's and that's how he becomes paralyzed.
I just want to know how he became paralyzed. Ah well, I guess he could have tried visit his dad again and gotten shot in the back while the guy "defended" himself.

 

[James Heard]

I think my favorite giggle of the episode was the fact that Locke's vision led them to false idols. Once Locke stopped believing in the vision and relying on himself again though he picked Boone up pretty easily. Obvious symbolism? Locke maybe really IS destined for great things, and it's only when he starts looking for answers outside himself (the island, his father, his mother) that his convictions cause weakness.

 

[KidCthulhu]

See, I could have sworn the voice on the other end of the radio said "There is no Oceanic Flight 815" not "There were no survivors". This to me is far more interesting. How does some random guy answering a radio signal know flight number information so well that he has that kind of information at his fingertips?

I may be the only one who thought this, but I found the episode weak. I thought it took overlong to tell the story, and I found the casting of Swoozie Kurtz very distracting. Don't get me wrong, she did a great job, but she's about the same age as the guy playing Locke, and even with his fake hair, they looked more like brother and sister than mother and son.

Could be that I just don't care for Locke. Although I do understand more now about why he's nutty as a fruitcake.

Also, on an island known to have suffered some kind of dreadful plague, is it really a good idea to go opening sealed containers?

Nice trebuchet, though.

 

[Geoff]

See, I could have sworn the voice on the other end of the radio said "There is no Oceanic Flight 815" not "There were no survivors". This to me is far more interesting. How does some random guy answering a radio signal know flight number information so well that he has that kind of information at his fingertips?

Any average Joe could easily know that information given the age we live in. Any high-profile news event (such as an airplane crashing with no survivors) is quickly all over ever news mediea...print, television and internet.

 

[KidCthulhu]

Any average Joe could easily know that information given the age we live in. Any high-profile news event (such as an airplane crashing with no survivors) is quickly all over ever news mediea...print, television and internet.

Maybe you misread me, Geoff. I heard the voice say there was no flight, not that there were no survivors. And that's wierd knowledge to have at your fingertips.

Anyone got this on tape or TiVo who can get a good listen to what was said? It went by pretty fast!

 

[Ambrus]

Nice trebuchet, though.

I was wondering about that myself. As I understand it, a trebuchet is essentially a giant see-saw that uses a descending counterweight to fling it's payload. Locke's contraption seemed to require a racheting action to get it ready and seemed to be storing it's energy via tention filled ropes; which I believe is rather how a catapult works. Wasn't Boone right then; it *was* a catapult. Then again, I'm not certain either term applies to a contraption that drives a giant hammer rather than fling a payload.

 

[dravot]

I was wondering about that myself. As I understand it, a trebuchet is essentially a giant see-saw that uses a descending counterweight to fling it's payload. Locke's contraption seemed to require a racheting action to get it ready and seemed to be storing it's energy via tention filled ropes; which I believe is rather how a catapult works. Wasn't Boone right then; it *was* a catapult. Then again, I'm not certain either term applies to a contraption that drives a giant hammer rather than fling a payload.

I thought that I saw a 'weight box' (or whatever the technical term might be) at the bottom of the lever arm, which would indicate a trebuchet.

 

[Geoff]

Maybe you misread me, Geoff. I heard the voice say there was no flight, not that there were no survivors. And that's wierd knowledge to have at your fingertips.

Anyone got this on tape or TiVo who can get a good listen to what was said? It went by pretty fast!

Yup, I did misread you, I thought he said "there were no survivors" but I can't be for sure on either of those. If I would have thought I should have re-listened to that before I deleted it from my TiVo...can anyone tell us what he REALLY said?

 

[Datt]

I got it on my PVR and rewatched it with subtitles.

"There were no surivors of Oceanic Flight 815."