Lost (5/17 SPOILERS!!!)

Is it me or did every person on that plane lose about 50 IQ points between seasons?

Lets look at Micheal first.

1) These people took Walt.
2) These people shot at him and his friends.
3) These people blew up his raft and left him to die in the ocean.
4) It was fairly obvious that they sent him the computer messages (or let Walt do it.) They knew where he was going to be and when. It was an obvious trap in hindsight.
5) They held him prisoner for at least a week and never let him see Walt.

So of course when they say that they will let him and Walt go free, he believes them. Micheal has zero reasons to believe that they are telling the truth. I understand the whole 'I will do whatever I can for a loved one' thing but come on.

Kate.
After being captured by the others she must have heard the one guy tell Zeke that they captured 'another one' and yet fails to come to the conclusion that this might be information worth sharing. Not even mentioning the time they discovered another hatch and didn't tell anyone about it.

Ecco and Locke
No one else is telling anyone about the hatches they find so I guess it ok to keep up the trend. Even though the stuff they find is of huge importance but I guess telling everyone that they are being watched really isn't that big of a deal.

Charlie
Yes lets inject yourself with some drugs that you have absolutely no idea as to what it does, too bad you don't have a doctor that might you know, have a clue.

Jack
Sure lets agree with someone who obviously isn't playing with a full deck decide on who they are going to take on this little rescue party. Because nothing says stealth like a big fat guy. (Don't get me wrong, I like Hugo but quiet and stealthy he is not.)

I loved the first season of Lost but this season has taken a 180 degree turn, if they don't do something spectatular for the last episode I will not be watching any more.
 

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Sir Brennen said:
...for the character's who's demons have been purged, they're probably flying up, not down...

Don't fool yourself - no one flies up. Ever.

Cthulhudrew said:
Of course, that raises some interesting and/or disturbing questions about Boone's death...

You mean, you didn't see the episode where he and Locke... Never mind.

Fast Learner said:
...the killing is a producer thing, not a common life philosophy held by anyone but the most pessimistic.

Says you. I my experience most people do operate under that life philosophy, they just lie to themselves and others about it.

In any event, I still say 99% of what is going on is just distractions and mind games on part of Hanso to control people, and most of the mysteries will turn out to be dead ends. Its all just a sad and mad game for a billionare.
 

Mimic said:
Kate.
After being captured by the others she must have heard the one guy tell Zeke that they captured 'another one' and yet fails to come to the conclusion that this might be information worth sharing. Not even mentioning the time they discovered another hatch and didn't tell anyone about it.

Well, they did capture Walt, so even if she heard the guy say we captured another one, she might have only assumed they meant Walt. Of course, she had her head in a burlap sack and was probably panicked (even for cool Kate), so maybe she didn't hear him say anything.

Not saying anything about the other hatch until much later (IIRC, she did mention it finally) is really stupid, I agree.

Ecco and Locke
No one else is telling anyone about the hatches they find so I guess it ok to keep up the trend. Even though the stuff they find is of huge importance but I guess telling everyone that they are being watched really isn't that big of a deal.

I assume that Locke is embarrassed by what he now sees as himself being a big fool, and so that's why he didn't mention it. He hasn't seemingly talked to anyone since he returned (Jack said they hadn't seen Locke or Eko, and Charlie and Claire didn't know where Eko was either).

Eko tends to keep things to himself also.

Not very conducive conduct to having people stay together and be merry and survive on a seemingly deserted island, to be sure, but not out of character for them. I wouldn't say its any change from their characterization from last season.

Definitely kind of dumb, though. :)
 


The Grumpy Celt said:
I dont know. I just know that according to Amazon.com the LOST DVD Release Date is October 3, 2006. I had hoped for something much sooner, but that will be about the time the new season starts.

I think all of the TV people are mad...Veronica Mars Season 2 doesn't come out until August I think. I mean, you'd think they'd want people who missed these seasons to get caught up so that they could watch Season 3 in the fall. I guess not. :(

The Grumpy Celt said:
In the mean time, what to watch, what to watch... Hrm...
Girls Gone Wilder, Vol. 8

For some reason I saw that as Girls Gene Wilder. :confused:
 

Cthulhudrew said:
Well, they did capture Walt, so even if she heard the guy say we captured another one, she might have only assumed they meant Walt. Of course, she had her head in a burlap sack and was probably panicked (even for cool Kate), so maybe she didn't hear him say anything.

That is true, there is a chance that she might not have heard it. As for Ecco and Locke I agree they are very secretive but still that is a pretty big chunk of info not to let the others in on.

Hand of Evil said:
Hugo is "spry" and has show he can go the distanance, remember the Numbers show.

Don't get me wrong, I like Hugo, good actor, great character but really you are going out to save your son. Do you take Hugo or Sayid?

I really want to like the show but the supension of disbelief they are asking for is getting way out there. I mean really give me something to work with here, a simple 5 second shot with Ms. Clue and one of the others talking about drugging Micheal into being more co-operative would have done wonders.
 

The Grumpy Celt said:
In any event, I still say 99% of what is going on is just distractions and mind games on part of Hanso to control people, and most of the mysteries will turn out to be dead ends. Its all just a sad and mad game for a billionare.

In all actuality I would kind of like that. If at the end of everything they turned it back at the viewers with 'Aha! All those paterns you thought you were seeing? It was all in your head, this was a series of random and unpleasant events!'

*sigh* Good times...good times...
 

KaosDevice said:
or just were deliberately blowing hot air when they kept up with the whole 'there is nothing supernatural here' thing.
Well, I think this much is patently obvious. There is no question that there's either something supernatural/paranormal or superscience-related going on - it's been proven this season. The producers telling us otherwise? Pffft. Whatever.
 

I think the reason I can overlook some of the plot holes that have been pointed out from time to time is that I really like some of the characters. It's the exact opposite of my reaction to BSG. I began to have major problems with the plots and since I didn't care about a single character on the show I had no incentive to keep watching.
 

Getting back to the "if you resolve your issues on the island, you die" discussion a dozen or so posts upstream, what about Arnst from season one? He was a somewhat significant player for two episodes in a row, and he certainly hadn't resolved his anger at not being in with the "in crowd" when he "got blowed up real good."

If the "resolve personal issues means death" is in fact a given on the island, it's certainly not the only way you can get yourself killed.

Johnathan
 
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