Lost 5-19-05

[WizarDru]

I liked the flashback of Shannon and Boone, only because it highlighted that Shannon has changed somewhat. I really don't think that she would get Sayid in trouble simply to spite Boone now. Well, if Boone were alive. She's still got a ways to go.

Still wishing her to get eaten, frankly. Cannot stand her....and the fact that Fox is currently courting the actress to play Kitty Pryde in the next X-men movie? Just one more reason not to like Shannon.

Arzt is either one of the Others or a Red Shirt. I was suprised he managed to survive this episode, which makes me say 'Other'.

I very highly doubt that the Others are descendants of mutineers. The fate of the Bounty's crew is pretty unpleasant, for one thing (those looking for a tough analysis of what survival on these Polynesian islands was like are directed to Jared Diamond's "Collapse", and the fate of the Pitcairn colony). For another, Ethan had combat training...most likely military hand-to-hand combat, from the looks of it. Not the sort of skill set a shipwrecked dutch colonist to develop.

I can't help but note that the girl Jack spoke to would have been in the part of the fuselage that separated during the crash...and landed elsewhere, maybe? Of course, I don't know who was on that radio talking to Boone...I mean, where would survivors from the rear of the plane get a radio from?

 

[Taelorn76]

Someone else has mentioned this, But Arzt's name was on the flight manefesto(sp), so it is hard for him to be one of the others that stole the french womans baby sixteen years earlier.

Unless he killed the real Arzt and assumed his Identity.

You also have to figure that even though we can not put a name to every face on the island all the survivors know each other pretty well. Atleast apperrance wise.

 

[Hand of Evil]

The Devil's Black Rock
A Doc Savage Adventure
by Kenneth Robeson

You better," Donkey Sam said grimly.
The army man looked at Doc Savage. "What I came up here for, Mr. Savage," he said, "was to get the story straight in my mind. I've got to make a report, you know, now that it's all wound up."
Doc Savage was silent a moment. "The black rock -- the black devil isn't a bad name for it, either -- will be the hard part to explain."
The army man nodded. "What would you say it is?"
"A new element, or a hitherto unknown combination of old elements," Doc Savage hazarded.
"Occurring naturally, eh?"
"Yes."
Donkey Sam Davis said, "This place in Arizona where I found it was an upthrust. You know -- some prehistoric upheaval had brought deep subterranean formations to the surface. You find very rare minerals in such places. That's where I found the black rock. It may be the only deposit in the world. I don't know."
"I hope it is," the army man said fervently.
Doc Savage agreed, "It would be bad stuff in the wrong hands -- an explosive so powerful that it does not even act like an explosive."
"Harmless," Donkey Sam reminded, "until alcohol gets on it. In some fashion, alcohol makes it explosive."
The army man shuddered. "Very explosive. The concussion of the shooting being done by those men in the trucks and cars set it off yesterday. I hate to think what would have happened if you had not ordered my men back."
"The explosive," Doc Savage said thoughtfully, "seems to be one that does

 

[Arnwyn]

I'm also surprised that Hurley didn't see the numbers on the hatch. He was looking right at it. Maybe he was on the wrong side?

Yeah, I was pretty disappointed about that.

And, I feel only pity (and a bit of shame) for those who didn't immediately think that Arzt is a "Red Shirt". Though I hope I'm proven wrong, because it seemed rather (painfully) obvious to me that's what he was...

 

[Hand of Evil]

Yeah, I was pretty disappointed about that.

And, I feel only pity (and a bit of shame) for those who didn't immediately think that Arzt is a "Red Shirt". Though I hope I'm proven wrong, because it seemed rather (painfully) obvious to me that's what he was...

I hope not and I hope he is an expantion of cast.

 

[WizarDru]

Someone else has mentioned this, But Arzt's name was on the flight manefesto(sp), so it is hard for him to be one of the others that stole the french womans baby sixteen years earlier.

Unless he killed the real Arzt and assumed his Identity.

Let's face facts: the only reason Ethan got <i>caught</i> is because his name wasn't on the manifesto and because Hurley checked. How many people even knew Scott's name before he was found dead on the beach? It would be dog easy for someone to kill Arzt before Hurley had done his census...but that doesn't really scan in the long run. However, it really would have been pathetically easy to kill someone and take their place prior to the census. We don't know enough about the others yet to know what they're capable of yet, which hampers a good looney theory from developing.

However, I think you're assuming that the Others have no means on and off of the island, and I tend to think exactly the opposite.

How about this: what if Ethan was the Others equivalent of a forest ranger, and they live deep underground in a bunker: the smoke indicates when they take their elevator back to the surface.

 

[Viking Bastard]

Man, there better be some revelations next week! I'm so afraid that they'll drag it out
for too long. I don't want it to become the next X-Files when we didn't get any answers
until the sixth season.

 

[WizarDru]

Man, there better be some revelations next week! I'm so afraid that they'll drag it out
for too long. I don't want it to become the next X-Files when we didn't get any answers
until the sixth season.

I was worried about that earlier on, but we're getting resolutions left and right. Next week we get to see the monster, for example. We've gotten to the black rock, and next week, they open the hatch. They're going to introduce new mysteries, and we won't learn too much about the others, I suspect, but they'll get there. Unlike the X-files, they've been consistent from day one, and I think they know where they're going, instead of making it up as they go like the x-files did.

 

[Steverooo]

It doesn't really make sense that the Others are from the tail section of the plane, since according to Dana (the French Woman), they took her baby daughter years ago.

It does if you become an "Other" after being "infected", which Danielle ALSO mentioned to Sayid!...

 

[Hand of Evil]

Let's face facts: the only reason Ethan got <i>caught</i> is because his name wasn't on the manifesto and because Hurley checked. How many people even knew Scott's name before he was found dead on the beach? It would be dog easy for someone to kill Arzt before Hurley had done his census...but that doesn't really scan in the long run. However, it really would have been pathetically easy to kill someone and take their place prior to the census. We don't know enough about the others yet to know what they're capable of yet, which hampers a good looney theory from developing.

However, I think you're assuming that the Others have no means on and off of the island, and I tend to think exactly the opposite.

How about this: what if Ethan was the Others equivalent of a forest ranger, and they live deep underground in a bunker: the smoke indicates when they take their elevator back to the surface.

I kind of think Hurley thought of that and kept plugging at his name.