Lost: Season 3 02/07/07

Richards said:
The wookiee line was great, but the absolute best Sawyer moment on last night's episode was when he was giving his would-be executioner the beating, and had him down enough that he and Kate could easily have run off, but he decided to hang around long enough to bash the guy's face into the electrified "food button" in his cage - not once, but several times.

Go Sawyer!

Johnathan
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Well the reason he threw him into it 3 times was due to the fact that you only get the shock on the 3rd time you push the button
 

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Taelorn76 said:
I don't think we learned anything about the island this week. IRC the only thing we may have learned about the island is that there are two islands.
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By "Island" I mean the general mysteries surrounding it, not the geographical body itself. Again, per my previous post, we learned that Juilet's work was centering around regenerative/reproductive studies, which probably has something to do with the properties of the island, which in turn have had direct impact on other characters. We also learned how Dharma was just as ruthless in its recruitment of some of the Others as they are toward the Lostaways.

The background scenes aren't just fluff. There are clues to the mystery of the island embedded throughout. If you don't think "anything happens" for episodes which have a high degree of flashback, I don't think you're paying attention.

I just don't get why the unique story-telling mechanism that was Lost's strength originally now seems to be that which is griped about so much on the boards.

Edit: RangerWickett, you're just a little too Lord of the Flies for me :p

It's hard to do a tale of redemption if all the principals start murdering people.
 

Sir Brennen said:
I just don't get why the unique story-telling mechanism that was Lost's strength originally now seems to be that which is griped about so much on the boards.
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It's a cool method when being used with good characters, ala Season 1. Now we get flashbacks on "the Others". I don't care about the Others, and any information on them can be told in other ways that don't include centering whole episodes around their backgrounds.
 

Sir Brennen said:
It's hard to do a tale of redemption if all the principals start murdering people.
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But allowing oneself and ones companions to be brutalized, taken into what amounts to slavery and killed is redemption? That is the piss-poor philosophy of moral cowards.
 


The Grumpy Celt said:
I wrote about who Edmund Burke was in my posts. So, given that you don't read posts from other people do you just come in here to post and then read your own posts?
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I read you post, but I´ve no idea why Edmond Burkes name was mentioned at all. I must have missed something during the episode, I´m sure of it.

I fail to see the reason why Queen_Dopplepopolis mentions his name, that´s all.

And thanks for the link Queen_Dopplepopolis, by the way :)

Asmo
 
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The Grumpy Celt said:
But allowing oneself and ones companions to be brutalized, taken into what amounts to slavery and killed is redemption? That is the piss-poor philosophy of moral cowards.
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???
Who's "allowing" themselves to have these things done to them in the show? The characters are fighting back, and it looks like they're going to up it a notch in the next couple of episodes. But this:

RangerWickett said:
After beating the crap out of the two Others trying to kill Sawyer, Sawyer electrocutes the guy. Then he shoots them both in the head while they're down. These guys are trying to kill you. You have no reason to want them alive. Kill them.
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Isn't this true moral cowardice? Not everyone is as "pragmatic" as RW; not everyone is willing to shoot a defenseless human in cold blood. Not killing when one has the chance *is* part of redemption-style stories. They overcame them and locked them in a cage. That was suffice. Brutality is a more cowardly trait than mercy, and choosing this path re-enforces the main characters as "the good guys" (though Kate obviously was struggling with it when she "wasn't bluffing.")

Flexor the Mighty! said:
It's a cool method when being used with good characters, ala Season 1. Now we get flashbacks on "the Others". I don't care about the Others, and any information on them can be told in other ways that don't include centering whole episodes around their backgrounds.
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Except where the background demonstrates that some of the Others may not be so different from the Lostaways in their unwillingness to be on the island(s). I think it illustrates that the concept of what defines an "Other" may not be as clear-cut as the audience thinks. The flashback served multiple purposes, including being a indicator that this character is going to continue to be important as the season progresses, possibly even switching allegiances.

Plus, there's an old adage in fiction: "Show me, don't tell me."
 


Wait wait wait. You're saying that, even though Kate and Sawyer knew that the two Others would be released and would aid in the attempt to catch and kill them, that they should have just left the two guys alive? None of the other Others were doing anything to stop Crazy McKillyoulots from shooting Sawyer. Why should Sawyer let the Others kill him? The best way to avoid dying is to kill the guy who wants to kill you. He's too big and strong to hold as a hostage, too irrational to reason with in the immediate future; the guy wants to kill you, and if you lock him in a cage he'll just be out in a few minutes to come after you.

I hate the Others. If the Lostaways don't kill one of the Others in the next two episodes (or we get one hell of an explanation why not), I'm out.
 

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