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[Tarrasque Wrangler]

More number fun!

There were two in a row this episode.

When Desmond injects himself at the beginning, the vial he uses has some kind of serial # that's 4815162342 (there were some dashes in there, but it was all in order).

When Desmond is opening the safe, the last two numbers in the combination are 23 and 42.

Anyone spot more?

 

[BrooklynKnight]

Didn't we? I thought for sure there was a long sequence of him being dragged across the ground, with Kate chasing him and the mist pulling him. It's been a while since I've seen that scene, though, so I could be misremembering.

We definatly saw him being dragged along the ground, but think back

Did you EVER see anything actually attached to him? did we ever see the mist physically connected to him..

 

[BrooklynKnight]

We definatly saw him being dragged along the ground, but think back

Did you EVER see anything actually attached to him? did we ever see the mist physically connected to him..

I just reviewed the scene 5 times, and you CAN just barly make out something black draging him. Its so fast its almost un-noticible.

The mechanical sound was very distinctive during the entire thing however. I still think its a machine, perhaps whatever is dragging him is releasing smoke. Who knows.

 

[Fast Learner]

The computer isn't a personal computer. The early 70's are pre-PC. It would be a mainframe or a mini, which the tapes support.

I don't recognize the prompt from any IBM 370 series or from any DEC stuff, so I suspect that it's just for the show.

 

[Hand of Evil]

The computer isn't a personal computer. The early 70's are pre-PC. It would be a mainframe or a mini, which the tapes support.

I don't recognize the prompt from any IBM 370 series or from any DEC stuff, so I suspect that it's just for the show.

ARC Mini (forget model and maker think NCR) from the late 70s to early 80s - it could use IBM tape drives but also had spinning drives you had to exchange. You would have a command promote, you entered command and everything ran in the background and would promote you for responses as process was executed. It was also allowed multi workstations to be attached, this could mean that there are other stations on the island!

 

[Steverooo]

- and, again: power? running water? blenders and smoothies?

Solar cells, wind/wave turbines + batteries and inverters = self-renewing electricity. Turn on the inverters, and you can run a blender, a light, a stereo, a refrigerator/freezer, or whatever else you need (with a bank of inverters, or one really big one). Eventually, you'll have to rebuild (or otherwise replace) the batteries, but desulphating the plates isn't that hard, and with some metal and a saw, you could always make more, when they wear out. The other component parts are basically reusable. In fact, you can make a battery of sea water, pennies, and nickles...

Running water is also no problem. It rains on the island, every day. Collect the water in a tank (easy, since you're underground), microfilter it (or distill it and condense the steam, if need be), and store it. The plumbing's not that hard.

Also, there may be a nuclear power plant providing more than enough energy and waste heat, so that the solar cells or turbines, batteries, and inverters aren't even needed. There could even be a "farm" of several banks of wave-turbines connected to the end of that cable that Sayid found...

Nothing within the "survival shelter" is beyond the limits of 1970s technology, with a large budget, except the food (sorry, but the shelf-life of food just isn't up to 30 years)!

Of course, all of this presupposes that there are no supplies being delivered, and that there's no "growing rooms" down there that use sunlamps (or somesuch) to grow food, too!

 

[fett527]

Did he get your cookie?

Why, did you want it?

I simply get annoyed when people don't read all posts in a thread, especially in a thread like this.

 

[Steverooo]

The song in the bunker sounded like something from The Carpenters (and the lead voice sounded like Karen Carpenter), so that would place it in the early-to-mid 70s. The computer equipment could easily be early 70s or late 60s, so that time frame seems appropriate.

No, no, no, and no! That most certainly was NOT Karen Carpenter (who I just happen to like, thank you very much!), nor did it even sound like her! I believe it was Miss (Nancy?) Sinatra, singing "Make Your Own Kind of Music", from the mid-to-late 1960s. The IBM PC was introduced circa 1982, with only the Heath-kit and Radio Shack's TRS-80 available earlier (maybe a Commodore 64). IBM Mainframes are another matter...

 

[WizarDru]

Nothing within the "survival shelter" is beyond the limits of 1970s technology, with a large budget, except the food (sorry, but the shelf-life of food just isn't up to 30 years)!

Actually, it can. From the Master Food Presevers and Safety web site: "The U.S. Army has found that canned meats, vegetables and jam were in "excellent states of preservation" after 46 years. However, long storage is not recommended. For high quality (versus safety), the broadest guideline given by the U.S.D.A. is to use high-acid canned food (fruits, tomatoes and pickled products) in 18 to 24 months, and low-acid (meats and vegetables) in two to five years."


As for the computer: I don't know what it is supposed to be, but it's clearly an Apple II frame, with some keys relabelled. Seeing that the Apple II was released in April of 1977, I think we're safe in saying that the personal computer got it's start in the 70s, my children.

Kids, these days....

 

[Steverooo]

Anyone recognize what kind of computer was in the hatch? Obviously old, but it didn't look like an Apple that I could tell. Maybe an early IBM? The cursor looked really odd, too. Not like I remember from those old school apple IIs and all, or even from the old dummy terminals that were in use for a long time.

Didn't recognize the computer, but the prompt looked like:

>:

Instead of the usual:

C:\>

So, I'm guessing an IBM XT, circa early-to-mid-1980s technology (the screen was really bad, like an XT I used to have). The prompt is doable with DOS, IIRC.