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[JoeBlank]

Solar cells, wind/wave turbines + batteries and inverters = self-renewing electricity. Turn on the inverters, and you can run a blender, a light, a stereo, a refrigerator/freezer, or whatever else you need (with a bank of inverters, or one really big one). Eventually, you'll have to rebuild (or otherwise replace) the batteries, but desulphating the plates isn't that hard, and with some metal and a saw, you could always make more, when they wear out. The other component parts are basically reusable. In fact, you can make a battery of sea water, pennies, and nickles...

And didn't Desmond spend some time on a stationary bike as part of his morning routine? How much electricity could he generate by doing that?

Good points on the food. After the scene my wife and I had the following exchange:

JoeWife: So there's somebody living down in the hatch?
JoeBlank: And he has raw eggs!

What I meant was, he has access to fresh food. Maybe canned food will last for 30+ years, but I'm pretty certain he cracked a couple of raw eggs into his shake.

 

[Hand of Evil]

And didn't Desmond spend some time on a stationary bike as part of his morning routine? How much electricity could he generate by doing that?

Good points on the food. After the scene my wife and I had the following exchange:

JoeWife: So there's somebody living down in the hatch?
JoeBlank: And he has raw eggs!

What I meant was, he has access to fresh food. Maybe canned food will last for 30+ years, but I'm pretty certain he cracked a couple of raw eggs into his shake.

the computer game Dungeon Keeper: Hen Houses had to be built to feed everyone, he has a hen house somewhere, would not to surprised if he did not have a 'protected' area outside for a garden.

 

[Steverooo]

Stuffs I missed!

Shoot! I can't believe how much stuff I missed, in this episode! I didn't see the eggs, don't recognize either shot of the computer, didn't see the safe, shotgun, or mirrors! (I even missed the '77 Apple IIs... ALL of them!... at least until the '80s!)

Man, was I watching another program, or what? The version I was watching, when Jack goes down into the hole, it's too dark to see much of ANYTHING, except what he shines the light right on... Not so, for the rest of you???

 

[The Grumpy Celt]

A recent Q&A with JJ Abrams revealed that he had planned to have a flashback sequence from the dog's point of view...

So, we were going to have a scene of drinking water from a toilet bowl and licking its own goolies?

It has occured to me we've not really had a flash back from Shannon, just Boone's perspective on Shannon. Nor have we had a flash back from Rose. Nor have we had a flash back from Walt, just Mike's perspective on his son.

I was watching the scene where Ethan Rom attacks Charlie - after Claire returns - and is holding Charlie up againast the tree. The sclera (the normally white part of the eye) of Rom is blue, in fact a kind of blueness seems to cover his eyes entirely. I wonder what this means.

Osteogenesis imperfecta causes (among other things) sclera to become blue-gray. Rom was too robust and violent to have that condition, which is more or less the same thing Mr. Glass had in Unbreakable.

Certian steroid use can also cause the sclera to become blue, which does seem possible if not probable for the character Rom.

And the Dark Side of the force colors eyes amber, so that can also be ruled out.

However, I wonder if in the context of the show, blue eyes is a symptom of "the" disease (the one Rousseau was raving about)? If so, have Claire, Charlie, Jack, Kate, Locke and Sawyer been exposed?

 

[Hand of Evil]

Shoot! I can't believe how much stuff I missed, in this episode! I didn't see the eggs, don't recognize either shot of the computer, didn't see the safe, shotgun, or mirrors! (I even missed the '77 Apple IIs... ALL of them!... at least until the '80s!)

Man, was I watching another program, or what? The version I was watching, when Jack goes down into the hole, it's too dark to see much of ANYTHING, except what he shines the light right on... Not so, for the rest of you???

They showed all that stuff when Desmond starts his day, which looked like any normal persons routine, except for the shot, until the hatch blows...then he opens a weapons locker, goes to the telescope that looks down the tunnels via mirrors.

 

[WizarDru]

Shoot! I can't believe Man, was I watching another program, or what? The version I was watching, when Jack goes down into the hole, it's too dark to see much of ANYTHING, except what he shines the light right on... Not so, for the rest of you???

We saw plenty. HDTV, dont'cha know.

As for the Eggs? I thought those were canned peaches and maraschino cherries.

 

[Fast Learner]

No, no, no, and no! That most certainly was NOT Karen Carpenter (who I just happen to like, thank you very much!), nor did it even sound like her! I believe it was Miss (Nancy?) Sinatra, singing "Make Your Own Kind of Music", from the mid-to-late 1960s.

Erm... earlier in the thread we resolved that it was likely the Mama Cass version. And I like Karen Carpenter, too... was I somehow insulting to her? I listened the The Carpenters every day for about two years straight in elementary school.

The IBM PC was introduced circa 1982, with only the Heath-kit and Radio Shack's TRS-80 available earlier (maybe a Commodore 64). IBM Mainframes are another matter...

Your microcomputer history is off quite a bit:

* The Altair 8800 was actually the first microcomputer, released (usually as a kit) in 1975, and was also my first micro.

* The Apple 1 was produced in 1976.

* The Apple II was produced in 1977.

* The Commodore PET was produced in 1977.

* The Radio Shack TRS-80 was produced in 1977.

* The Commodore VIC-20 was produced in 1980.

* The Commodore 64 was produced in 1982.

But the important thing is THAT'S NOT A MICROCOMPUTER HE"S USING. It's a terminal to a mini or mainframe. Greenscreen terminal like that have been around since the 1960s.

The song places the bunker in about 1970. No personal computers. Really.

 

[fett527]

...I was watching the scene where Ethan Rom attacks Charlie - after Claire returns - and is holding Charlie up againast the tree. The sclera (the normally white part of the eye) of Rom is blue, in fact a kind of blueness seems to cover his eyes entirely. I wonder what this means...

He who controls the spice controls the Universe...

 

[Fast Learner]

And didn't Desmond spend some time on a stationary bike as part of his morning routine? How much electricity could he generate by doing that?

About enough to run a small lamp while riding on the bike, with little if any left over afterwards.

 

[WizarDru]

But the important thing is THAT'S NOT A MICROCOMPUTER HE"S USING. It's a terminal to a mini or mainframe. Greenscreen terminal like that have been around since the 1960s.

The song places the bunker in about 1970. No personal computers. Really.

Not to be pedantic, but no...that places the bunker AFTER 1970...or more specifically, means that someone came to the bunker in that time period. CDs didn't catch on until 1986. I have a fairly sizable collection of my sister's LPs sitting in the attic, right now.

And while that may or may not be intended to be a personal computer, it most certainly is an Apple II frame, as shown in pictures upthread. That said, being an Apple II hardly prevents it from being used as a terminal connection to any of the miniframes nearby. Those things near the terminal are tape drives of some sort...and judging by the size and make are late 1960s to mid-1970s technology. Presumably the other machines are, as well...which would make the Apple II one of the more powerful devices there, believe it or not.

Of course, one has to make allowances for TV and for budget concerns. It could be that they just gathered the most 'authentic looking' devices they could, without that much regard to specifics. However, since the Apple II was the original hobbyists computer, designed to be hacked, modified and expanded....it's quite possible it was being used in some pretty creative ways right there.