LOST Wednesday 11/16/05 {Spoilers for this ep and previous eps ONLY!}

[Crothian]

Possible reasons that the Others left the primary group alone (aside from the discovery & death of Ethan):

- they're a larger group than the "tail section" survivors
- they are armed (Locke's knives, 4 guns)
- they have more "survivalist-types" (Locke & Kate's hunting & tracking, Sayid's military background, etc.)
- they are better organized (grouped quickly under Jack's leadership, whereas the "tail" group was split between Anna & Nathan)
- they have more/better supplies from the plane

But with Ethan dead the Others really have no way of knowing this

 

[Flexor the Mighty!]

Ya, that's why I usually have a negative reaction to the show since I know it will not live up to expectations they set.

what expectations do they set in your opinion?

 

[Crothian]

what expectations do they set in your opinion?

The show shows us lots of mystery and in the article they say that they aren't going to explain them all, so the expecations of knowing what is going on is the big one.

 

[Cthulhudrew]

Cthulhudrew: Days they had been on the island?

I suspect he was keeping time on the stick, that he may have an accurate count of when 40 days had passed.

D'oh! Of course- now that I think of it, that was my initial thought when viewing the show last night, but somehow started to think it might be something else.

 

[Fast Learner]

As far as the total number of tailaways goes, the numbers work out perfectly, we don't have to guess at some number dying or anything.

23 survivors. 3 are taken in the first round (Eku would have been the 4th... they describe the 3), leaving 20. 4 die (Libby says the broken leg guy would be the "fourth to go") leaving 16. 9 are taken in the second round, leaving 7. Nathan and Goodwin are killed, leaving 5. Which is how many are left when we first encounter them.

I've rewatched the tail crash several times, and there are no noticeable "shadows." That is, there are some mystery dark things along with other debris, but they all shoot straight into the water, no swooping like above the engine in the first season.

 

[Fast Learner]

Also, just rewatching, here's my theory:

1. The stuff in the box in the bunker is from one of the Nigerian priests from the plane crash... the skeleton with the eyepatch seems likely (mentioned here).

2. Eku is a religious man, hence 40 days of penance after killing the two Others.

3. Eku knows that priest (or "priest"). He opens the front cover of the Bible, not to some passage, and looks thoughtfully at the place where it would be personalized.

 

[Cthulhudrew]

1. The stuff in the box in the bunker is from one of the Nigerian priests from the plane crash... the skeleton with the eyepatch seems likely (mentioned here).

Those weren't Nigerian priests in the plane- they were drug runners. I believe their skeletons were in the plane as well, though I don't recall for certain.

In any case, I think the stuff in the bunker is from the Dharma people- specifically the eye. The Dharma people seem to have some problems with their limbs/organs (note the weirdness of the trainer's arm in the film; he never moves it, and it seems to be artificial.)

 

[Hand of Evil]

I see were there are making LOST for cell phones: starting next year, 10 minutes shows!

http://www.eonline.com/News/Items/0,1,17795,00.html

Okay, this is just going overboard, the book and now this...

 

[Fast Learner]

Those weren't Nigerian priests in the plane- they were drug runners.

That's the assumption that everyone is making, including Locke. You somehow know that the guys in that plane knew there was something in the statues, or did you just let Locke's assumption make that leap for you?

I believe their skeletons were in the plane as well, though I don't recall for certain.

Correct. Doesn't mean some of their stuff wasn't removed from the plane.

In any case, I think the stuff in the bunker is from the Dharma people- specifically the eye. The Dharma people seem to have some problems with their limbs/organs (note the weirdness of the trainer's arm in the film; he never moves it, and it seems to be artificial.)

One guy not moving his arm doesn't signify anything about the Dharma people that I can tell. Interesting theory, I'll grant you, but I certainly don't give it creedance over my theory... just alongside.

Besides the superficial reason (Eku seems to be an African), the way the lostaways all have connections to each other and to the island (like the numbers) sure makes it likely to me that the tailaways have the same connections.

 

[Arnwyn]

Of course, this doesn't explain why they couldn't just take them randomly, determine for themselves, and toss the ones that were bad. My theory on that is... um... Look a distraction! *runs away*

My theory is that geographical distance is what's keeping them (relatively) at bay.

From what has been said in previous episodes (the Dark Territory, the things that Rousseau has said, what Eko has mentioned), there definitely seems to be an actual "territory" belonging to the Others, and that it looks to be quite some distance from the mid-sectioners' camp.