Lost

[John Crichton]

Hmmm. The marshall may have a name but I don't think the swimmer was ever named.

The bigger question is which of the regulars will die first? We should put odds on it.

Character name and season/episode.

 

[Steverooo]

Tail Survivors?

Did Jack find the tail end of the plane, when he found the coffin?

Rose (the lady on the beach) seemed quite sure Bernard was still alive (and Jack didn't really stop to check). Hey, it could happen... The pilot was still alive, in the nose section...

So, in Episode 1, we see a dead black man (kinda heavy set) on the beach. Jack checks him before the wing falls off, and Hurley saves Claire. Later, (after Jack tells Kate she'll need better shoes if she wants to go look for the nose), we see her taking the boots off this guy...

So, if that wasn't Bernard... then he could be alive in the tail... and if he survived, then others could have, too. Did the show ever mention how many people, total, were on the flight? I don't recall seeing it (but I've only seen four episodes).

Well, the trailer for next week said that the island will begin to reveal its secrets... Tune in, next week!

 

[Steverooo]

And now that I think about it, didn't Jack wake up in a tree? Everyone else we've seen (except Vincent, the dog, and the pilot) was on the beach... So Jack was apparently near the tail, and Vincent and the coffin (and maybe or maybe not a polar bear) were in the tail.

So if Vincent survived, and Jack survived, it is likely that others could have (if there were any others).

If Locke could get back the use of his legs, and Claire's baby suddenly start kicking, again, then it's not impossible that Jack's Father could come back to life, as well... But I don't think that that's what happened!

I still think "The Island is Alive!", and that the plants move, but there's nothing there to be seen. Locke (who I think in NOT unbalanced, despite his saying that crazy people never think they are) seems to think that the island is wondrous ("Magic!").

So, so far, I think the island is trying to make people "be all that they can be", and able to manipulate things to make it happen... and apparently selectively (Jack saw his Dad, Kate didn't).

Not everything that happens is the island's doing, however. The scuba diver drowning, the marshall's death, Jack almost falling off a cliff, Boone almost drowning... But even so, those circumstances were able to be used to help Boone & Jack be all they could, Sawyer grow a bit, Locke be a hero, and Jack save Boone...

So, if the island wants everyone to "be all they can be", and is manipulating things to make that happen... Locke is ahead of the pack. He is embracing the situation, and seems several steps ahead of the rest...

So what happens when the castaways arrive at their potential? Do they never reach it, or are they released, to go back into "the real world"?

Oh well, it's all conjecture! Just hafta wait and see what's up.

 

[John Crichton]

And now that I think about it, didn't Jack wake up in a tree? Everyone else we've seen (except Vincent, the dog, and the pilot) was on the beach... So Jack was apparently near the tail, and Vincent and the coffin (and maybe or maybe not a polar bear) were in the tail.

Jack woke up on the ground in the jungle right near the beach, if memory serves.

 

[fba827]

I just saw the latest episodes on the saturday repeat.

The question was posted above as to why Locke denied having seen "the big bad creature"

I have three thoughts (two building off the same idea ...)

* (the one I am most likley going to believe) that Locke did see it (as it seems almost completely clear that he did see it) BUT he escaped it (ran and hid or so). However, he denied it because he didn't want to alert the others that he was in harms way as that might make them think he shouldn't be allowed to go off on his own (or whatever) again. He is happy to be on the island (because of his "miracle") and he likes the freedom that the island presents to him. To tell the others that he was in danger would present an obstacle for him to go out alone in the future

* Same as above, except instead of outruning it, he either befriended it or saw a "flaw" in it or figured it out, etc. But he simply didn't want to even suggest that he figured it out for the same reasons as above (because something about what he determined would mean the end of his freedom)

* The third possibility (though the one I am less inclined to believe) he returned but brainwashed (in some manner) or a doppleganger...


As for the general basis of the island, at first I was all for the island provides what people are thinking concept. But, I don't know, I just don't buy that. Something about it seems to convient and still does not explain everything. I don't have any better theories so I can't say...


Finally, a question -- this could very well have been in a part I didn't see (as there are large portions of three episodes I did not get to see) but the guy in the suit that is (hinted at? or bluntly stated as?) the Dr's father. Has anyone else actually seen and acknowledged the guy? Or has it so far only been he Dr to see him? It could be all in his mind... that's all I'm trying to figure out.


Are there any interesting georgprahical points in that area? 'Cause everytime they talk about the plane going down, I have flashes to shows about the bermuda triangle. I am just wondering if there is a similar geographic area shrouded and myth somewhere between australia and West Coast US (plus the thousand miles off course thing)

 

[Crothian]

No one else is shown to have seen Jack's Dad.

Bermuda Triangle: There was a very interesting show on Discovery that took a different area of the ocean of about the same size as the Bermuda Triangle and showed that around the same number of ship of planes dissapeared in it. There are lesser know so called mysterious triangles in the Pacific.

 

[fba827]

Jack woke up on the ground in the jungle right near the beach, if memory serves.

Yeah, that is right. I still have the first episode on Tivo. He woke up in the jungle not "far" from the beach. Though they did have him running through the jungle for at least 20 seconds of screen time so I don't know how "close" to the beach he actually was.

I would wager to say that was done mainly to give us (the auidence) a gradual entry point to the scene through his perspective rather than starting off in the midst of chaos on the beach. They have been using the Dr. as the audience perspective for many things now

 

[KingOfChaos]

I think the people are already dead, they just don't know it yet. I figured that out last episode when Jack's father was seen walking around the island and then Jack found the water and the coffin, yet his dad's body wasn't in it.

Maybe they're stuck in some sort of purgatory?

 

[KingOfChaos]

I do have some problems with "theories" of the storyline.....If the passengers are actually "dead" and are in limbo for where they are destin....then why do people die on the island? If these people are actually in limbo and some are finally taken to heaven/hell, wouldn't they just disappear? A "physical body" wouldn't remain.... Just a thought.

Well, maybe whatever is keeping them there doesn't want them to know they're already dead as some sort of test? So a body is left when they're taken away to keep them from knowing what happened.

 

[John Crichton]

I think the people are already dead, they just don't know it yet. I figured that out last episode when Jack's father was seen walking around the island and then Jack found the water and the coffin, yet his dad's body wasn't in it.

Maybe they're stuck in some sort of purgatory?

I think the creators already debunked this theory. I could be wrong and I'm too lazy to look for a link at the moment. I'll look around when I get home.