Love the Game, Hate the Baggage

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But I'm not apologizing for the marketing anymore


Did you ever?!?! :confused:

:lol:

Largely, you're right that it's a bit late to be concerned about the marketing per se, but there are still a lot of boneheaded (IMHO, of course) WotC that are ongoing.

Unless, of course, that one is complaining about having made a purchase sight unseen on the basis of DDI tools that don't exist, and may never exist, like the VT, of course. :hmm: If I was playing 4e, and I had been sold on the idea that the DI was part of the core experience, the failure of the DI to perform as advertised would cheese me off.

Other moves, like pulling pdfs because they are unsafe (except, of course, for the 4e pdfs they didn't pull), might cheese folks off because they are (like the VT) ongoing issues.

Or the GSL. Began a dud. Revised into a dud. Remains a dud.

So, yeah, if WotC cleared up the ongoing issues, and people were still upset a year later, without new ongoing issues to be upset about, it would be a bit much. When (if) that day comes, I won't "largely agree" with you; I'll agree with you 100%. :)

Of course, I will have abandoned WotC-D&D for so long by that point that clearing up those issues will be pretty well meaningless to me. Except that, if they change to a more useful (to me) format, I might end up buying more adventures to convert. :lol:


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But I want to be free to love 4E and not have to defend Wizard's roll out.


Well, nobody says *you* have to defend a darned thing. If you see someone say something bad about 4e, or the marketing you could, you know, ignore it and go about your business. WotC is populated with adults. They are perfectly capable of defending themselves, should they feel the need.

So, we now have yet another thread of griping about each other. I see people being rude. I see folks bringing up closed threads. This is going nowhere constructive.

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