Lycanthrope spellcaster

marune

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I was looking at the lycantrophe template, and I noticed that in hybrid form, a lycanthrope
spellcaster cannot cast a spell with a verbal component.

My first idea to enable it to do it was the Natural Spell feat, but it's only for the wildshape ability of the druid.

So, if I want a Lycanthrope spellcaster in hybrid form, I need to go for an house rule or there is something in an official WOTC product?
 

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Nothing official that I am aware of... I would simple HR Natural Spell to work for any alternate form.. even Poly-chain spells... {with the caveat that the form has to be animated.. }

Of course, if you play in my normal setting this minor change does make my favorite enemies a wee bit more powerful... the things I could do with Strahd if he had this HR'd version of the feat!

:D
 


skeptic said:
I was looking at the lycantrophe template, and I noticed that in hybrid form, a lycanthrope spellcaster cannot cast a spell with a verbal component.[...]

Hi!

Then you maybe wanna get a "mouthful" of the Nonverbal Spell feat described on page 40 of the Planar Handbook. :D

With the feat you are able to cast spells with V components w/o need to pronounce the words. The feat mentions the benefit for creatures not capable speaking correctly explicitely. If the humanoid form and the animal form can communicate, then the hybrid form also will be able to communicate.

Enjoy!
 

EDIT : I found what I was looking for in the FR Faith & Panteons, a feat named Lycanthropic Spellcasting..
 
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skeptic said:
EDIT : I found what I was looking for in the FR Faith & Panteons, a feat named Lycanthropic Spellcasting..
Interesting. I had this same problem while creating a campaign villain, a werebat wizard. I wound up just creating a new feat, Lycanthropic Spell, that functioned exactly like Natural Spell, save it only worked for lycanthropes in their alternate forms.

And here I thought I was creating a House Rule. :p
 

I houseruled Natural Spell to work for natural lycanthropes as well (not non-natural lycanthropes, there's a difference). This makes a natural lycanthrope druid a little better off, not requiring two separate feats that basically does the same thing. This was before I saw the Lycanthropic Spellcasting feat though. Now I'm not sure what to do. :) I guess both the houserule and the other feat would apply. hmph
 

Seems odd that there would be this many variations on basicaly the same thing...

I think one feat to learn how to adapt spell-casting to a non-birth form is quite enough. Call it 'Alternate Form Casting' and be done with it :heh:
 

I would not allow it for polymorph (baleful polymorph, shapechange, etc.). I like the concept of "natural" meaning part of the character and regardless of how often a spellcaster casts polymorph, I don't view it as natural. I do, however, view a druid's wildshape as natural (despite being Su). I had a doppelganger use Natural Spell, too. I should amend my previous comment to say natural shapechangers, not just lycanthropes.
 

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