Right, carefully extracting the one or two relevant points that aren't repetition...
eyebeams said:
It may come as an incredible surprise from your vantage point, but far more people read Plato and Bacon than they do DC comics.
1. I'd be very surprised if that were actually true TBH. Take that as a damning statement about the intellectual state of the world if you will but there it is.
2. The Atlantis of Plato and Bacon is substantially different in execution and tone from the Atlantis presented in Awakening.
eyebeams said:
Dude. You and Funksaw hate the company. You hate it so much that you can't even discuss this game without referrring to your LARP issues ("Year of Fire blah blah blah . . ." -- What did that have to do with anything?). Part of your creative output as a designer is devoted to your grudge.
*sigh* There you go again being assumptive. Again, I can't speak for Funksaw but I don't hate the company nor all of its output on principle, I haven't taken a boycott stance over anything and likely will continue to purchase some of its products in the years to come. I have had personal issue with two of its employees (both now left) and its handling of its fan organisation. C'est tout. And excuse me if its hard to disentangle the LARP terminology from the TT terminology occasionally, the events were substantially the same and equally frustrating and annoying.
Part of my creative output as a designer is towards HUMOUR, mostly self-referential or insular gamer humour. It is a sad fact that despite the fact I'd like my more serious work to be better referenced and appreciated I'm known for Munchkin's Guide to Powergaming and the humour books for Mongoose. All too often that's the stuff that brings in the pennies. So, part of my creative output is devoted to gamers making fun of gamers, something you'll also find in Dork Tower, Order of the Stick and the Munchkin spin-offs that I half-jokingly always whinge about not seeing a penny of.
But you seem determined to take this hate thing on faith, whatever.
eyebeams said:
It has more to do that you wrote trash about how fat chicks are Stoopid (and appropriate fit with Mongoose, though). This is the highly refined intellectual positon that you approach the company's stuff from. If you consider this a decent pisstake, then you are . . . easily amused.
If that's how you're going to take it I'm not going to change your mind any more than I'm going to change the mind of the guy who spammed just about every internet RPG forum in existence with his moral outrage over Slayer's Guide to Female Gamers based on reading only a web extension of that document. There's always layers to what I write and I've been happy to see that (particularly with Nymphology) a lot of people have seen them.
eyebeams said:
--has little to do with content. I must say, though, that you're both willing to put an uncommon amount of effort into prosyletizing. Between your .pdfs and Funksaw's press releases, it seems that the company has done far more for the two of you than it ever has for me.
You can see it how you like, nobody seems capable of making a dent in that but my criticisms are to do with content. Ah well no, lets be fair, they're also to do with expectation and presentation.
As with all the other discussions on Awakening we've gotten mired in the Atlantis thing but really that's just the glaring ridiculousness that broke the camels back and it heightens the other problems. The one-way (in the context of previous Mage so that crosses over with expectation), the morality linked magic, the 'blah' splats and the rote concentration (I can understand the design decision behind it - doesn't mean I like it). That the cause behind these flaws is something so eye-rollingly awful (IMO) as atlantis is just icing on the cake.
And yet, despite all that, I gave it an average grade and I marked werewolf above average. Not really the actions of someone with a blind hatred on now is it? Especially since werewolf was the one I hated the most in the past.
If this ISN'T how you would have interpreted or rewritten it then why are you taking it so personally and trying to make personal attacks?