Magic Vestment

[DMFTodd]

Magic Vestment says: " A suit of armor cannot have more than +5 in total bonuses (even if some of its bonus is from other than enhancement)."

Does this mean

A) A Breastplate has Armor Bonus +5. So the Magic Vestment won't improve it?

B) It's talking about magical enhancements to the armor. So a plain breastplate could get up to +5 from Magic Vestment. A breastplate with +2 Luck bonus could get +3 to breastplate.

 

[kreynolds]

Magic Vestment says: " A suit of armor cannot have more than +5 in total bonuses (even if some of its bonus is from other than enhancement)."

Does this mean

A) A Breastplate has Armor Bonus +5. So the Magic Vestment won't improve it?

I don't believe this is the case.

B) It's talking about magical enhancements to the armor. So a plain breastplate could get up to +5 from Magic Vestment. A breastplate with +2 Luck bonus could get +3 to breastplate.

I don't know about the luck bonus part. I don't have my books with me right now either, so I can't take a good look at the spell. Is the bonus from Magic Vestment an enhancement bonus? If so, then a luck bonus shouldn't get in the way of the spell, as it would be a completely different type of bonus.

If that's not the case, then that's a really funky spell.

 

[dcollins]

Actually, that language is practically inexplicable. Probably almost everybody plays it as if it just said "a suit of armor can have a maximum +5 total enhancement bonus".

EDIT: Alternatively, I may have just been radically mis-reading this spell and need to re-think its usage.

 

[JChung2003]

Magic vestment won't improve a breastplate, because its armor bonus is already +5, and magic vestment can't give a suit of armor more than +5 in total bonuses. Likewise, magic vestment could only improve an outfit of clothing (+0 armor bonus) enchanted with a +2 luck bonus to AC by a maximum enhancement bonus of +3.

The verbiage in the description for magic vestment only applies to the effects of the spell, not for all bonuses to AC for suits of armor.

I would venture to say that many people just house rule magic vestment to change the enhancement bonus of a suit of armor without regard to its other bonuses.

 

[kreynolds]

Here's the whole snip...and I still can't believe I'm actually reading this.

You imbue a suit of armor or a shield that
you touch with an enhancement bonus of
+1 per three caster levels (maximum +5 at
15th level). An outfit of regular clothing
counts as a suit of armor that grants no AC
bonus for purposes of this spell.
&nbsp&nbsp&nbspNote: An enhancement bonus increases
armor’s or a shield’s benefit to the wearer’s
AC. A suit of armor cannot have more than
+5 in total bonuses (even if some of its
bonus is from other than enhancement).

 

[Darklone]

Build me a breastplate with +5 luck, +5 deflection, +5 enhancement and +5 natural armour bonus.

 

[kreynolds]

Build me a breastplate with +5 luck, +5 deflection, +5 enhancement and +5 natural armour bonus.

How's 312,500 gp sound?

+5 luck 62,500
+5 natural 100,000
+5 deflection 100,000
+5 enhancement 50,000

 

[Darklone]

How's 312,500 gp sound?

Well... all that stuff in only one slot sounds still nice.

 

[Kae'Yoss]

The maximum of +5 means that you cannot take an Armor with a +2 enhancement bonus and make it +7.

Magic Vestment is the Greater Magic Weapon for Armor. It grants an enhancement bonus of +1/3 levels, max. +5.

 

[kreynolds]

The maximum of +5 means that you cannot take an Armor with a +2 enhancement bonus and make it +7.

That's what my gut told me. I figured that funkily worded passage was just trying to point out the stacking/nonstacking bonuses thing.

And yes, 'funkily' is indeed a word, but only for today.