Malhavoc copy/paste eased

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francisca said:
When DRM is removed, I'll probably shell out a few hundred bucks over a month or two on that site.

Yeah, I should probably be kind of happy about the DRM thing; it's going to save me a bunch of money. Terra Primate, Armageddon, all those T2K & 2300 AD books . . . the last time I checked eBay (it has been a few years), City of Angels tended to command a hefty premium. $6 to get it? Woo!

But, then I realize I've opened the Book of Eldritch Might on upwards of a dozen computers, some of which didn't have Internet connections, and I sigh.
 

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Kajamba Lion said:
Your point is well taken, but, from where I'm at, what we could do two days ago is moot, because I don't see DriveThru's vendors completely abandoning DRM on all titles soon.

I think it's entirely possible. In fact, it seems clear from Monte Cook's column on the issue that the other publishers are very much testing the water and should be watching the results of this move closely for future changes to their business methods.
 

I have been posting everywhere about this. My current standpoint is this, if the DRM works the way it is promised (it currently doesn't for me) then this slackening of the copy functionality is enough for me to start using the site.

Not by preference, but I understand what they are trying to achieve. That said, I think that they will not achieve one iota of their goal with DRM, but I do understand they want to try.

Richard Canning
 

Nope, still won't purchase from DTRPG, period.

There are far too many negatives involved.

High prices, DRM, non-competitive practices by WW, poor judgement in comments made by folks involved, horrific website etc etc etc ad nauseum.

No thank you.

Nifft said:
I usually use Linux, and I'm pretty sure that DRM isn't supported.

Oh well.

-- N

Gee, I would never have guessed that...

Iconic Penguin indeed! ;)
 

Short answer: No. I don't participate in DRM systems. They don't protect my rights.


Long answer, read on....

It is still useless to me...

I pretty much use linux only. If the pdf doesn't open in xpdf, I'm not planning on buying. DRM is not supported by xpdf. I use my linux laptop at the gaming table and have purchased many of my supplements in pdf format to use at the table.

DRM (digital rights management)... what a joke. I'm the one who has digital rights. If I purchase something, I should be able to use it in the way that I see fit, as long as it is legal. Note: I'm totally against illegal acts like violating copyright by trading files that are not open or that you don't own copyright on.

Bottom line, I'm not buying DRM (digital rights deprivement) PDF or music or whatever from anyone. I'd like to be able to use media on whatever computer, player, or operating system I choose.

I like RPG now, because they do protect my digital rights. I have the right to ask them for a free download if my copy is destroyed or defective. Try that with your drm vendors.

-E
 

Starglim said:
I think it's entirely possible. In fact, it seems clear from Monte Cook's column on the issue that the other publishers are very much testing the water and should be watching the results of this move closely for future changes to their business methods.

Let's hope you're right. :)
 

jgbrowning said:
Two days ago we could do the same thing, without having do to any of the other hassle that's now included. Being able to do it now isn't an improvment of any sort.

I'm glad DTRPG is listening and hope they listen enough to just chuck the whole DRM thing and really watch their sales increase.

Due respect, Joe, I don't think that is likely to happen. It seems their primary business model is to sell products by companies that won't live without some guarantee that their work won't be copied.
 


Psion said:
Due respect, Joe, I don't think that is likely to happen. It seems their primary business model is to sell products by companies that won't live without some guarantee that their work won't be copied.

Yeah, I'm rather pessimistic about that as well.

What I'm hoping is that if enough people show those publishers that DRM doesn't give them any guarantees that their work won't be copied and that it actually reduces sales compared what they would be without DRM, some of the publishers may become more comfortable with the uncomfortable fact that, although they own the copyright, they never own the copies.

When 300+ people say they're not going to buy your product and the average sales for the products are rarely higher than 500, you'd better be paying attention.

The fact that RPGDT changed their policy for Malhavoc at least shows that Malhavoc was able to show them the business facts about how easing up on the cut-n-paste restrictions is probably a step in the more-profitable direction.

The way I view it is this way: if a company's going to put out electronic versions of their product, they should do it in ways that maximize profit considering their e-sales, their channel sales, their convention sales... all their sales.

But, even with all that, I'm afraid you're right. One thing I do know is that nothing's ever changed when people stopped trying to change it. Be that through talking, posting, boycotts or whatever. In this case, the deciding factor probably isn't one of those things, it'll be fiscal, I imagine. But the fiscal decisions are often tied closely to the opinions of the people who are your target sales demographic.

I want RPGDT to succeed. I don't think there'd even be a question of that success if the files were open and completely accessible to those who paid hardcash to get them.

joe b.
 
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