Manual of the Planes Revealed Over on RPG.net

[Whizbang Dustyboots]

Just how did someone in Japan get the book anyway, and can it be trusted?

Japan or the person?

Historically, most of these advance leakers are telling the truth. The fakers usually slip in something plausible-yet-controversial to generate lots of hits.

 

[Stogoe]

Leaving out the Planescape detritus makes me more likely to pick this book up. Thanks, WotC!

 

[Rechan]

Leaving out the Planescape detritus makes me more likely to pick this book up. Thanks, WotC!

Aye. Although not because I hate Planescape stuff, but it was just before my time.

I wonder how much is devoted to the Elemental Chaos.

 

[Plane Sailing]

Fun fact; at D&D Experience, we saw the Shadow Demon in some book somewhere. The Shadow Demon is in the pre-4e "Monsters and More" PDF. I wonder how close to the pre-4e one it is.

I hope it isn't much like the one previewed then, because that was quite a long way from the original conception

Yeah, well maybe, but who cares if he didn't also illustrate it! =P

But know I now who to ask why it is weaker AC in light (day/torch), but oddly immune to lightning of all kinds.....I would think it should get some kind of temporary AC adjustment as if under torch light (maybe AC6 instead of 5 since lightning is quicker) for a round or something from being in the presence of such intense/focus light.

Hey - I did an illustration! wasn't my fault they didn't use it. Grumble grumble

You're overthinking the whole 'light' thing with lightning. Otherwise you'd have to do the same for fireballs too (even more so). As it is, those in the know could cast light spells against it to damage it.

Cheers

 

[justanobody]

The Japanese branch of Amazon often ships before the American street date. I remember SpringsBoundlessThorns' having posted about other books before release.

There should be a law against that!

You're overthinking the whole 'light' thing with lightning. Otherwise you'd have to do the same for fireballs too (even more so). As it is, those in the know could cast light spells against it to damage it.

Cheers

Yeah sure when also don't forget to overthink that light = fireball and the thing is oh I don't know...immune to fire, so working like a fireball means it is immune to it too!

=P

 

[GMforPowergamers]

As a huge spelljammer fan...(and someone who can't buy new books till after the holidays) I would love if anyone sees or hears more on how much spelljamer stuff there is...are we talking a chapter, a page, a paragraph...a sentence...some art???

 

[Shroomy]

The latest updates from Japan:

The recognized Astral Dominions are:

Arvandor, the Verdant Isles
Carceri, the Red Prison
Celestia, the Radiant Throne
Chernoggar, the Iron Fortress (and home plane of Bladelings)
Hestavar, the Bright City
Kalandurren, the Darkened Pillars
The Nine Hells of Baator
Pandemonium, the Howling Depths
Pluton, the Gray Waste
The White Desert of Shom
Tu"narath, City of the Githyanki
Tytherion, the Endless Night

Good news for Old Schoolers: The Great Wheel as interpreted by the new alignment system is laid out. Very nice!

 

[I'm A Banana]

Man, so much PS hate...

As a HUGE PS fan, I don't really care that they didn't have more PS info in here. Do it right or not at all, indeed.

I'm interested about planes they cover, how much detail, what kind of locations, etc...

 

[Fallen Seraph]

As a fan of Planescape this actually gives me some hope there will be a Planescape Campaign Setting. Since with only a small amount of info on Sigil, no mention of the Mercykiller (come on let that be our first preview of Planescape Setting) and such. It gives lots of space to be built into to make what is right now a more brief description of the Planes into a whole Setting.

I really want to get my hands on the PPs to see what they are all about.

 

[Hussar]

Man, so much PS hate...

As a HUGE PS fan, I don't really care that they didn't have more PS info in here. Do it right or not at all, indeed.

I'm interested about planes they cover, how much detail, what kind of locations, etc...

Speaking only for myself, it's not so much Planescape hate, it's more just being really tired being told that the new stuff sucks because they don't properly follow books that have been out of print for over a decade. Who cares?

It's the whole "They destroyed Forgotten Realms" crap all over again.

It's a new system. They've SPECIFICALLY SAID that they are not going to follow canon but are going to reinterpret everything. Judging the quality of a product by how much it differs from out of print canon is ludicrous in light of the fact that they have said that old canon is not going to be followed.

The whole kerfuffle about the City of Brass being the oldest city is a perfect microcosm of the whole thing. If you got into D&D in the past 10 years or less, then Planescape completely doesn't matter to you. Why should we continue to be beholden to material that's been dead and gone for years?

Judge the product on its own merits. If it sucks because there isn't enough information, or poorly edited or the art is crap, then fair enough. Books suck. But, claiming it sucks because it ignores Supplement 8321xY page 213 subparagraph 2 is a big pet peeve for me.