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UngainlyTitan

Legend
Supporter
No that sounds silly.

I think the 3d VTT has a perfectly fine audience of people that want to play D&D, and like cool visuals.
Cool visuals at what price to the DM. I tried out Talespire and it took me about 4 hours to just build an inn. Now I am sure with practise, I could get better but nothing in the experience convinced me that it was a worthwhile use of my time as a DM.
 

Cool visuals at what price to the DM. I tried out Talespire and it took me about 4 hours to just build an inn. Now I am sure with practise, I could get better but nothing in the experience convinced me that it was a worthwhile use of my time as a DM.
They state it's planned to be easy to work with, we don't know enough to assume how easy or hard it will be. Lots of prefabs are planned at the very least.
 

Dire Bare

Legend
As usual, it seems many of the posters here didn't watch the video!

The video makes it pretty clear that this Maps feature is a separate thing from the upcoming 3D VTT. And that WotC's aim is to give players as many ways to play D&D as possible . . .
  • At the table, pen-and-paper
  • At the table, with the mobile app
  • Using the 2D Maps feature here
  • Using the 3D VTT feature in the future
  • Using VTTs and other apps from other publishers
  • Theatre of the mind or minis or tokens or . . . .
It's the "wherever you are purchasing and playing D&D, and in whatever way, works for us" approach, and I think it makes a lot of sense.

My only frustration is with the slow roll out of features on D&D Beyond. I wish they'd hire more folks and make this a higher priority. There are so many things the site could do, that they have on the to-do list, and haven't implemented yet after years . . . .
 




Oofta

Legend
Sure. Always. But it didn’t have to be a released product for that.
There are always bugs when you release software. Better to have it with a free product with low expectations than a fancy VTT. Or not. Maybe it's just a teaser - get people used to the integration and hope they upgrade to the VTT or any number of other explanations.
 

CleverNickName

Limit Break Dancing
I'm not surprised. Many of the adventures and maps that you can purchase on the Roll20 Marketplace are already sized and scaled, rigged for lighting, etc. (And the newer ones have interactive doors, windows, and configured tokens.) You just drop them into an existing game and you're off to the races. I figured it was only a matter of time until D&D Beyond (and other platforms) began to offer the same stuff.

More goodies for more gamers!
 

darjr

I crit!
There are always bugs when you release software. Better to have it with a free product with low expectations than a fancy VTT. Or not. Maybe it's just a teaser - get people used to the integration and hope they upgrade to the VTT or any number of other explanations.
I write concept software. It doesn’t need to have that product cycle nor the effort or manpower. Sure your mileage may vary and this for sure is also concept, absolutely a part of this, it is a product.
 


The director of the 3D VTT project has said the exact opposite of what you claim.
You got a quote or link of some kind? What is the name of the person you're referring to?

I'm not saying you're wrong, but without any kind of link, and just flying in the face what was suggested in earlier discussions, I'd like to know the details.

The VTT will not be necessary for Beyond.
Why even come out with a bizarre strawman like this? No-one has ever suggested the VTT would be needed for Beyond. Ever.
 

You got a quote or link of some kind? What is the name of the person you're referring to?

I'm not saying you're wrong, but without any kind of link, and just flying in the face what was suggested in earlier discussions, I'd like to know the details.


Why even come out with a bizarre strawman like this? No-one has ever suggested the VTT would be needed for Beyond. Ever.
Kale Stutzman when they revealed the 3D VTT on that big One D&D product launch.
Your concept that WotC suggested these are integrated products is denied every single time they talk about it. The only person making the connection is you and some vloggers.
 

Kale Stutzman when they revealed the 3D VTT on that big One D&D product launch.
Where in the video did he make that clear? I've watched it before but never caught that.

You are very certain so you must know exactly where.
Your concept that WotC suggested these are integrated products is denied every single time they talk about it.
WotC have multiple times said that the VTT integrates Beyond. All the videos of people using the 3D VTT feature them using characters on Beyond IIRC.

Including in this article which quotes Kale Stutzman.


I guess you're presuming the 3D VTT has some kind of entirely separate character generation and updating which essentially replicates Beyond's functionality? And only optionally integrated Beyond? That's entirely possible, but I think not very clear yet. How do you think it works?
 

Retros_x

Explorer
Cool visuals at what price to the DM. I tried out Talespire and it took me about 4 hours to just build an inn. Now I am sure with practise, I could get better but nothing in the experience convinced me that it was a worthwhile use of my time as a DM.
How long does it take you to draw an immersive 2d map? I think many DM will rely on using premade maps, similar to 2D.
 



UngainlyTitan

Legend
Supporter
How long does it take you to draw an immersive 2d map? I think many DM will rely on using premade maps, similar to 2D.
The thing with 2d is that one does not really need an immersive map, it is more a reference for tactical positioning. With 3d the visual aspect of the map will become much more important.
 



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