Marvel Avengers, 1889 [Full]

[Elric]

Shayuri, you'll have Inspire giving you +5 to saves as of init count 22 and your stun wears off before the turn of the attacker who stunned you, so you should be able to avoid another staggered result.

Since I don't have my books, can someone remind me what despair does. I want to say -2 to saves, skill checks, attack rolls, with a duration of Sustained Lasting; so until someone manages to stun Banshee and have her fail a concentration check to maintain it, or until a minute goes by and we get another save.

 

[Karl Green]

OK I updated the round through Hulks action as I want to see what Black Widow and Scarlet Witch are doing (makes saves, etc. remember if they are AFTER Captain Britania when then they are +5 to your roll, and you are also +5 to your rolls in Round 2, until Captain Britania's next action)

 

[Karl Green]

Since I don't have my books, can someone remind me what despair does. I want to say -2 to saves, skill checks, attack rolls, with a duration of Sustained Lasting; so until someone manages to stun Banshee and have her fail a concentration check to maintain it, or until a minute goes by and we get another save.

Ah, just looked at the Rules again myself... "-2 to attack rolls, defense, and checks" (I am assuming skill checks?). Duration is Sustained (Lasting)

 

[Shayuri]

Posted. Used an HP to unstun, if necessary. I think I'd normally be stunned all through round 1, unstunning in Round 2... Glad I used it if so, cuz I got a hit in! Yay!

 

[Karl Green]

Actually my mistake there, Shayuri. You would have been Un-stunned just before Goblyn's turn as he hit you in the Surprise round... totally sorry there so you don't have to spend a HP this round to become unstunned...

 

[Jemal]

Jemal's playing Wolverine! You know he wouldn't be dead for long...

*L* too true. If I weren't full of fun regenerative powers, I would've been a bit less ok with it. When I thought that it was save vs death, I figured that was WHY he targetted wolverine instead of someone else, was cuz he didn't wanna start the TPK boulder.

 

[hero4hire]

Ah, just looked at the Rules again myself... "-2 to attack rolls, defense, and checks" (I am assuming skill checks?). Duration is Sustained (Lasting)

As per the errata (and page 171) Shaken is –2 on attack rolls, saving throws, and checks.

So anyone Shaken also has a -2 to toughness saves by RAW.

Checks include Grapple checks and ability checks on top of skill checks.

 

[Elric]

h4h- Is despair intended to give the shaken condition? I was under the impression that shaken was the first result for emotion control: fear, but that despair might be purposefully different.

 

[hero4hire]

h4h- Is despair intended to give the shaken condition? I was under the impression that shaken was the first result for emotion control: fear, but that despair might be purposefully different.

They do both say The subject is shaken, but have only slightly different effects when you fail the save by 10 in Ultimate Power. (One makes you Panicked the other Hopeless)

In the end it is up to Karl on how he wants to interpret the rules, but I do know Shaken as a Condition was put into the Errata so all pages match the Condition Summary on page 171 core book.

 

[Elric]

We'll see what Karl says. Darn, I would have really liked to take out Hyde (I remember Capt America doing it in an avenger's comic book) but it looks like I missed.