Dire Lemming
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Walking Dad said:
.....Ok....
So, anyone got some good non-CRB spells to suggest for a twentieth level Beguiler to get with Advanced Learning?
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.....Ok....
So, anyone got some good non-CRB spells to suggest for a twentieth level Beguiler to get with Advanced Learning?
Dire Lemming
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Dunno what either of those are.
Dire Lemming
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Hey, I said non-core spells. 
Is multiclassing really essential? Bypassing SR seems like it would be really useful. That and I really don't like the complication involved.
Hey, I just thought of something. Are we allowed to bring along cohorts and/or followers, or summon them later?
Is multiclassing really essential? Bypassing SR seems like it would be really useful. That and I really don't like the complication involved.
Hey, I just thought of something. Are we allowed to bring along cohorts and/or followers, or summon them later?
I think he outlawed Leadership...
Sorry, I missed the non-core stipulation.
I am also curious about spell foci, be they with stated value or not.
Dire, it's not really required to multiclass, but you gain a lot. Telepathic communication is REALLY nice for beguilers, because you can use it to issue silent, untraceable orders and communications with enchanted subjects, and it works with any being who has language.
Also, noteably, it lets you select Advanced Learning from a spell level higher, starting from the point you take the PrC level.
This is true of any PrC level that advances your spellcasting caster level.
It works like this: Beguiler gets Advanced learning at, say, level 15. Normally that lets you select a 7th level spell, because you can't cast 8th level until level 16. BUT. If your caster level is 16 when your Beguiler level is 15...then you can select an 8th level spell with that Advanced Learning.
Which is nice.
But you have to decide if it's worth delaying the capstone Beguiler power by 1 level. (Hint - It is.)
Sorry, I missed the non-core stipulation.
I am also curious about spell foci, be they with stated value or not.
Dire, it's not really required to multiclass, but you gain a lot. Telepathic communication is REALLY nice for beguilers, because you can use it to issue silent, untraceable orders and communications with enchanted subjects, and it works with any being who has language.
Also, noteably, it lets you select Advanced Learning from a spell level higher, starting from the point you take the PrC level.
This is true of any PrC level that advances your spellcasting caster level.
It works like this: Beguiler gets Advanced learning at, say, level 15. Normally that lets you select a 7th level spell, because you can't cast 8th level until level 16. BUT. If your caster level is 16 when your Beguiler level is 15...then you can select an 8th level spell with that Advanced Learning.
Which is nice.
But you have to decide if it's worth delaying the capstone Beguiler power by 1 level. (Hint - It is.)
Dire Lemming
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Shayuri said:I think he outlawed Leadership...
Sorry, I missed the non-core stipulation.
I am also curious about spell foci, be they with stated value or not.
Dire, it's not really required to multiclass, but you gain a lot. Telepathic communication is REALLY nice for beguilers, because you can use it to issue silent, untraceable orders and communications with enchanted subjects, and it works with any being who has language.
Also, noteably, it lets you select Advanced Learning from a spell level higher, starting from the point you take the PrC level.
This is true of any PrC level that advances your spellcasting caster level.
It works like this: Beguiler gets Advanced learning at, say, level 15. Normally that lets you select a 7th level spell, because you can't cast 8th level until level 16. BUT. If your caster level is 16 when your Beguiler level is 15...then you can select an 8th level spell with that Advanced Learning.
Which is nice.
But you have to decide if it's worth delaying the capstone Beguiler power by 1 level. (Hint - It is.)
Man! No leadership?! Who's going to hang on my character's arms and generally make him look like a rapper?!
Oh well, that build sounds keen, or mew or something! Now I just need to find this Prestige Class.
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Albedo
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Phew, I got alot of catching up to do it seems. Life can run ya down some times. *Cracks Knuckles*. Lets be at it.
All: First off, I'm just gonna disallow Unearthed Arcana entirely. No more questions about it please.
KerlanRayne:
Petal Fey is fine, Elven spell lore will only effect the listed spells, and you can use the weapon crafting templates.
Walking Dad: No generic questions on allowed sources please. If you want a specific alternate class feature, ask specifically. Dread Necromancer is fine.
Dire Lemming: If you use the SRD to make a character, you will be mostly right, but simply put I don't like alot of its rulings and won't use them, so if you do use it, try and verify your character as soon as you can with actual books.
Graybeard: There is no imbue summoning feat in the PHBII. Find me a source and a page number and we will talk. Yes, you can pick older age catagorys.
Jemal: No, knowledge histery won't give you a synergy bonus to Lore.
Shayuri: You guys can have any focus/material components you want, as long as they are non-magical. The only gear stipulation is that you have to be able to carry all that you own.
FYI: Any gear you start with will be considered worthless to all merchants and other people in the region. It is a control put on the realm by the masters of the school to keep smugling to a minimum.
Did I miss anything???
All: First off, I'm just gonna disallow Unearthed Arcana entirely. No more questions about it please.
KerlanRayne:
Petal Fey is fine, Elven spell lore will only effect the listed spells, and you can use the weapon crafting templates.
Walking Dad: No generic questions on allowed sources please. If you want a specific alternate class feature, ask specifically. Dread Necromancer is fine.
Dire Lemming: If you use the SRD to make a character, you will be mostly right, but simply put I don't like alot of its rulings and won't use them, so if you do use it, try and verify your character as soon as you can with actual books.
Graybeard: There is no imbue summoning feat in the PHBII. Find me a source and a page number and we will talk. Yes, you can pick older age catagorys.
Jemal: No, knowledge histery won't give you a synergy bonus to Lore.
Shayuri: You guys can have any focus/material components you want, as long as they are non-magical. The only gear stipulation is that you have to be able to carry all that you own.
FYI: Any gear you start with will be considered worthless to all merchants and other people in the region. It is a control put on the realm by the masters of the school to keep smugling to a minimum.
Did I miss anything???
