Masters of the Arcane

[Jemal]

WD - That seems like a loophole way of getting around the 'no equipment' restriction (Spending a lot of money on knowing more spells), as there's no equivalent to it for non-wizard characters, IMO

 

[Walking Dad]

WD - That seems like a loophole way of getting around the 'no equipment' restriction (Spending a lot of money on knowing more spells), as there's no equivalent to it for non-wizard characters, IMO

Yes, seems so. But any organic grown wizard would have aquired some spells "on the way". If not I would to have to take the leadership feat and learn the spells from my followers

I don't think Albedo intended wizards to know less spells than sorcerers

 

[Albedo]

Walking Dad: I said 0 equipment. You don't have any gold to spend on spells, scrolls, tomes, services, or anything. And btw, i'm not allowing the leaderships feat for this campaign. While wizards will be able to learn spells later, thats the current restiction.

 

[KerlanRayne]

What about these items:
Unearthed Arcana
Wizard Alternative Class Feature: Trade Wizard bonus feat list for Fighter bonus feat list.
LA Buyoff rules

Player's Handbook II
Elven Spell Lore: It says it affects Dispel Magic and Greater Dispel Magic. Can it also work for spells that function just like those spells?

MM III
Petal race: Tiny Fey

DMG II
Weapon crafting templates.

KerlanRayne

 

[Jemal]

Kerlan - He's allready said no to the 3.0 Monsters Manuals (Such as MM2), and I believe from other experiences with him that he dislikes Unearthed Arcana (Much as I do)
As for the weapon crafting template, you know you probably won't have the xp/gp to create anything for a while right? (A long while considering the standard rate of PBP)

WD - At 20 A sorc knows 3 each of the top 4 spell lvls (6th-9th). A wizard has 4 of each, +2 more of any lvl. That's hardly a wizard knowing less. for 5th and below they're pretty much the same, and, as Albedo pointed out, the wizard has the option of adding more in the future.

Also don't forget you probably won't be the only wizard here.. if you know a spell that another PC doesn't, it's a fairly straightforward spell trade. "Hey, I'll let you copy Fireball if you let me copy Lightning Bolt". Still doesn't help you right off the bat, but it is useful.
Besides, Wizards get other things Sorcs don't get, like bonus feats, faster Metamagic, better skill list.

 

[Walking Dad]

Aye, you are right.

@Albedo: Can I use the alternate class features from Complete Champion?

 

[Dire Lemming]

Well this looks cool. I've always wanted to try a high level character, and without the need to buy equipment I might actually be able to make one.

What's the deal with this bizarre no SRD rule though? I don't have my books with me right now and won't for a while. Does that mean I can't make a character?

 

[KerlanRayne]

Kerlan - He's already said no to the 3.0 Monsters Manuals (Such as MM2), and I believe from other experiences with him that he dislikes Unearthed Arcana (Much as I do)
As for the weapon crafting template, you know you probably won't have the xp/gp to create anything for a while right? (A long while considering the standard rate of PBP)

Well MM3 is 3.5, so I was just asking. If he won't allow LA buyback, that's fine. I know some people hate it. I figured the alternative class options might not be too bad. He said that we could have mundane equipment. Some spells need weapons so I was going to get some.

What's the deal with this bizarre no SRD rule though? I don't have my books with me right now and won't for a while. Does that mean I can't make a character?

He basically means you can't use the entire SRD. You can only use info from the 3 core books, PHB, DMG, and MM.

KerlanRayne

 

[Kaodi]

Not sure whether I want to be part of this game, but here is a partial draft of a character I made a few days ago...

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[B]Name:[/B] XXX
[B]Class:[/B] Wizard 15 / Archmage 5	[b]Starting Level[/b]: 20
[B]Race:[/B] Deep Dwarf
[B]Region of Origin:[/b] Underdark
[B]Size:[/B] Medium
[B]Gender:[/B] Male
[B]Alignment:[/B] Chaotic Neutral
[B]Action Points:[/B] XX
[B]Deity:[/B] XXX ([B]Domains:[/B] XXX, XXX)

[B]Str:[/B] 10 +0 (02p.)	[B]Level:[/B] X	[B]XP[/B]: XXXX
[B]Dex:[/B] 12 +1 (04p.)	[B]BAB:[/B] +X		[B]HP:[/B] XX (XdX+XX)
[B]Con:[/B] 16 +3 (06p.)	[B]Grapple:[/B] +X	[B]Craft Points:[/B] XXXX
[B]Int:[/B] 23 +6 (16p.)	[B]Speed:[/B] XX'	[B]Stat Increases:[/b]
[B]Wis:[/B] 10 +0 (02p.)	[B]Init:[/B] +X	[B]Spell Save:[/B] XX
[B]Cha:[/B] 08 -1 (02p.)	[B]ACP:[/B] -X		[B]Spell Fail:[/B] X%

[B]	Base	Armor	Shld	Dex	Size	Nat	Misc	Total[/B]
[B]Armor:[/B]	10	+X	+X	+X	+X	+X	+X	XX
[B]Touch:[/B]	XX	[B]Flatfooted:[/B] XX

[B]Spell Res:[/B] None
[B]Dmg Red:[/B] None

[B]	Total	Base	Mod	Misc[/B]
[B]Fort:[/B]	+X	+X	+x	--
[B]Ref:[/B]	+X	+X	+x	+X
[B]Will:[/B]	+X	+X	+x	--
[B]Notes:[/B] +3 Racial to Saves vs. Spells, Spell-like Effects and Poison

[B]Weapon			Attack	Damage	Critical	Range[/B]
XXXXXXXX		+X	XdX+X	XX-XX/xX	------
XXXXXXXX		+X	XdX+X	XX-XX/xX	XXX ft
XXXXXXXX		+X	XdX+X	XX-XX/xX	XXX ft
[B]Notes:[/B]

[B]Languages:[/B] Dwarven, Goblin, Undercommon, Draconic

[B]Abilities:[/B] Spell Power, Mastery of Shaping, Mastery of Elements, Arcane Reach, Arcane Fire

[B]Feats: [/B] Skill Focus (Spellcraft), Spell Focus (Evocation), Spell Focus (Transmutation), Spell Penetration, Improved Initiative, Scribe Scroll, Still Spell, Silent Spell, Extend Spell, Empower Spell, Quicken Spell

[B]Spells prepared[/B] (Save DC XX + spell level; XX/XX): 0 - XX, XX; 1st - XX, XX
[B]Domains:[/B]
[B]Spellbook/Spells Known:[/B]
	0 - XX, XX, XX;
	1st - XX, XX, XX;

[B]Psionic Powers [/B] (Save DC XX + Power level; Manifester Level XX)
[B]Power Points:[/B] XX
[B]Powers Known:[/B]
	1st - XX, XX, XX;

[B]Spell-Like/Psi-like Abilities:[/B] XXX

[B]Skill Points:[/B] XX	[B]Max Ranks:[/B] X/X
[B]Skills		Total	Ranks	Mod 	Misc[/B]
Concentration	26	23	XX	--
C (Alchemy)	29	23	XX	--
Intimidate(cc)	08	09	XX	--
K (Arcana)	29	23	XX	--
K (Dungeon)	29	23	XX	--
K (Planar)	29	23	XX	--
Spellcraft	29	23	XX	--
[B]Notes:[/B]

[B]Equipment:		Cost	Weight[/B]
XXXXXXXX		XXgp	XXlb
XXXXXXXX		XXgp	XXlb
XXXXXXXX		XXgp	XXlb
XXXXXXXX		XXgp	XXlb
XXXXXXXX		XXgp	XXlb
XXXXXXXX		XXgp	XXlb

[B]Total Weight:[/B]XXXlb	[B]Money:[/B] XXXgp Xsp Xcp

[B]		Lgt	Med	Hvy	Lift	Push[/B]
[B]Max Weight:[/B]	XXX	XXX	XXX	XXX	XXX

[B]Age:[/B] 
[B]Height:[/B] 
[B]Weight:[/B] 
[B]Eyes:[/B] 
[B]Hair:[/B] 
[B]Skin:[/B]

Appearance:

Personality:

Background:
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[Graybeard]

If you are still recruiting, I am very interested. I have a 16th lvl character from another game that never got going so I would just need to update it and remove equipment buffs.